Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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106. Many things have been discussed.

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 07:16 PM

Jun 2013

I want to know what you favor and why. Unless you believe that any gun control move is good.

What kind of background check do you envision? Why should there be liability costs and how much should they be? What kinds of weapons should be limited and why?

Please be specific. Otherwise you really aren't participating in the discussion.

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(California State) Senate passes series of gun, ammunition bills [View all] petronius May 2013 OP

Albert Einstein said it best: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #1

Not strong enough in my opinion upaloopa May 2013 #2

+1. I'm with you all the way. Starboard Tack May 2013 #4

Is it democracy in action or gejohnston May 2013 #5

I'm a gun owner too and a resident and a voter and upaloopa May 2013 #10

I agree to a degree gejohnston May 2013 #19

Your a gun owner and you say these don't go far enough. clffrdjk May 2013 #20

None of these laws will have any effect on me or my gun. upaloopa May 2013 #24

Is there a law preventing businesses from disallowing guns on their premises? gejohnston May 2013 #26

I really doubt there will be bans on most guns upaloopa May 2013 #29

This is a ban on every clffrdjk May 2013 #31

Sounds pretty "anti-gun" to me derby378 May 2013 #89

Actually, this is essentially a ban on the sale of ALL firearms. S_B_Jackson Jun 2013 #98

Are you positive? clffrdjk May 2013 #28

When was the last time Jenoch May 2013 #34

So what CA law is going to effect the Savage .410/.22 combo? rdharma May 2013 #54

It was in the OP. Jenoch May 2013 #56

That has NOTHING to do with the Savage 24 Series. rdharma May 2013 #57

Does the bill list makes and models Jenoch May 2013 #58

Think Progress is reporting the same thing gejohnston May 2013 #59

Think Progress is wrong on this...... rdharma May 2013 #61

That is what I thought gejohnston May 2013 #63

The excerpt from the newspaper gets it wrong, I think petronius May 2013 #67

Spreads east? premium May 2013 #9

Just how many states are east of CA upaloopa May 2013 #11

Just about every other state premium May 2013 #14

They will once the gun money is out of their politics. upaloopa May 2013 #17

Yeah, ok. premium May 2013 #18

And not on Gay Marriage Politicalboi May 2013 #32

Ca. must be feeling surrounded, premium May 2013 #33

Like Massachussetts, NY and CT. The squeeze is on. Starboard Tack May 2013 #42

And everyone of those states are historically anti gun. nt. premium May 2013 #46

What nonsense! Very few people are anti gun. Starboard Tack May 2013 #62

I hate weasel words gejohnston May 2013 #64

Do you honestly consider this sensible? clffrdjk May 2013 #66

Sensible, in this context, means putting public safety before gun nuttery. Starboard Tack May 2013 #72

I would define "sensible" differently: in any context, I would say that sensible petronius May 2013 #73

O darn you beat me at every turn clffrdjk May 2013 #74

Sensible, in this context, means "Whatever Dianne Feinstein wants" derby378 May 2013 #90

And what rights do they want to restrict exactly? Starboard Tack May 2013 #93

yes and no gejohnston May 2013 #94

What gejohnston said (n/t) derby378 May 2013 #95

What nonsense! Those states ARE historically premium May 2013 #79

There is a big difference between "anti-gun" and "anti-gun nuttery" Starboard Tack May 2013 #82

And CA is passing anti-gun nuttery. premium May 2013 #84

Well, you stay happy in NV Starboard Tack May 2013 #86

Hunting is great out here. premium May 2013 #87

If they move to NV, then they become citizens of NV Starboard Tack May 2013 #92

this is the ultimate in anti gun nuttery gejohnston Jun 2013 #96

I agree. That is anti-gun nuttery Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #103

Gun control measures just died in Rhode Island hack89 May 2013 #50

Same in N.H. premium May 2013 #52

Ah well, then there's Maryland. Starboard Tack May 2013 #60

And there is Illinois hack89 May 2013 #65

Whoopee! That should reduce the death toll. Starboard Tack May 2013 #69

based on past experience gejohnston May 2013 #71

Talking of jet skis Starboard Tack May 2013 #75

there is regulation gejohnston May 2013 #76

We have sensible Jenoch May 2013 #91

CCW has never increased the death toll in any state that legalized it hack89 May 2013 #78

Where did I say it did? Starboard Tack May 2013 #80

"That should reduce the death toll" hack89 May 2013 #83

I was being sarcastic. Starboard Tack May 2013 #85

If California is a leader on gun control ... spin May 2013 #13

And not one state with concealed carry laws, premium May 2013 #16

meanwhile in the UK, gejohnston May 2013 #3

And Britons want their handgun ban repealed Howzit Jun 2013 #107

Will these apply to the cops and politicians as well? clffrdjk May 2013 #6

Probably not. premium May 2013 #12

Excuse me but... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #21

Yeah, I know. premium May 2013 #22

Yeah discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #23

I was just taking a dig at those that think only the cops and military premium May 2013 #25

re: "...I probably shouldn't have included pols." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #27

Agreed nt. premium May 2013 #30

Chicago Aldermen sarisataka May 2013 #35

Maybe by local ordinance... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #36

One of those old powers sarisataka May 2013 #43

did you say... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #44

I guess that the border states are going to see an increase in ammo sales. premium May 2013 #7

It appears the California gun laws are Jenoch May 2013 #8

Such laws make some people feel good. (n/t) spin May 2013 #15

saving lives makes me feel good samsingh May 2013 #38

they won't be saving any lives gejohnston May 2013 #39

I support laws that reduce violent crime. ... spin May 2013 #45

hopefully they'll pass even stricter gun control laws samsingh May 2013 #37

How far would you go? Straw Man May 2013 #40

no i would not samsingh May 2013 #68

How? Straw Man May 2013 #70

they've been explained all over the internet samsingh Jun 2013 #104

liability insurance gejohnston Jun 2013 #105

Many things have been discussed. Straw Man Jun 2013 #106

That's ok. premium May 2013 #47

Or on the Nevada side of Tahoe gejohnston May 2013 #48

Oh hell yeah. I might even move back to where I grew up, premium May 2013 #49

I love that area.... S_B_Jackson Jun 2013 #99

I loved growing up in Lake Topaz, premium Jun 2013 #100

Shameful. Megalo_Man May 2013 #41

These are good, broad initiatives.... Swede Atlanta May 2013 #51

Like it or not, it sure looks like an incremental ban of all but the simplest of firearms. NYC_SKP May 2013 #53

Getting rid of the "bullet button" was a no brainer! nt rdharma May 2013 #55

What is the likelyhood of Brown signing this shit? Serve The Servants May 2013 #77

shall issue violent crime rates jimmy the one May 2013 #81

post hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2013 #88

I can't speak for WV, but the main reason Montana and the Dakotas' violent crime rate has shot up... LAGC Jun 2013 #102

All firearms mfg/dealers should adopt "NO SHIP/SALES TO GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES IN CALIFORNIA" S_B_Jackson Jun 2013 #97

Remember it's about control never about safety. ileus Jun 2013 #101