Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Now that the Illinois CCW ban is history, let's eliminate "may-issue" laws [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)rules. I lived in Japan. The "essential liberties" you give up in Japan are:
jury trial
impartial judges, since acquittals are not good for careers.
exclusionary rule
right to a lawyer during questioning
right against self incrimination
right to not get the shit beat out of you during questioning
Is there any civil liberty Parliament can't strip away tomorrow? Besides, UK is an interesting place, and I liked my times working with the RAF.
Wasn't the PATRIOT Act in the name of "public safety"?
who makes the rules? Fundies make the same claims on different issues. The fundamental core of the Enlightenment and liberalism is that the individual is sovereign, the State does what the individual can't do for themselves like build roads enforce laws etc. Society is a collection of individuals that share a common culture and some basic values. Those individuals elect representatives to a reflect their views on the rules should be, collect the money needed, pay for, and carry out those duties. The whole is the equal to the sum of its parts and no more.
Some of those duties of the State is maintaining the education system and social safety net. That is what divides the classical liberal, like Washington who instituted a welfare system in DC in his first term and Madison that vetoed a "faith based initiative" because it is the State's responsibility, from the modern "libertarian" who are really Arachno-Capitalists like that idiot that came up with the worst "march on Washington" idea imaginable. Civil disobedience is one thing, there are causes worth dieing or going to jail for. Protesting DC's, when you are not a resident of DC, gun law is not one of them.
classical liberal-Thomas Paine who wanted to take "soak the rich" to a whole new level.
modern libertarian-Alex Jones.
see the difference?