Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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58. I expect reason and the basic principle of one-person one-vote in a free and fair election to carry

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:12 PM

Jan 2012

the day.

It is, just not the way you like. There are more affluent gun control fans, and only a couple of billionaires pony up. Some on the right like Sly Stallone, the Bradys, and Bloomburg. Some on the left, who do not much.

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Even "Gun Rights" Judge Can't Stomach NRA Extremism [View all] ellisonz Jan 2012 OP

Interesting two-faced approach tonight. krispos42 Jan 2012 #1

Conflated analysis. ellisonz Jan 2012 #2

Not even close. Clames Jan 2012 #4

I never said it did... ellisonz Jan 2012 #6

So now we get to the crux of it. krispos42 Jan 2012 #9

Not exactly... ellisonz Jan 2012 #14

Most murders and nearly all assaults and violent crimes.... krispos42 Jan 2012 #17

Criminals try lots of times too... ellisonz Jan 2012 #22

"the thing is it normally doesn't take that many times to succeed. " rl6214 Jan 2012 #27

You tell me... ellisonz Jan 2012 #31

Via "mail order"? Cite, please. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #35

I guess the seller didn't have call display iverglas Feb 2012 #68

Just because he didnt say those words... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #75

let's run through this again iverglas Feb 2012 #76

I accept that.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #77

no, you don't "accept" that iverglas Feb 2012 #78

Considering the source.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #79

oh woe is me iverglas Feb 2012 #80

I'll freely admit bias. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #81

I know how it feels!! iverglas Feb 2012 #82

If you're suggesting it applies to you too.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #83

excuse me??? iverglas Feb 2012 #84

He didn't have to. krispos42 Feb 2012 #88

really iverglas Feb 2012 #67

Somehow, the topic never came up. krispos42 Feb 2012 #86

I'll defend krispos on that... ellisonz Feb 2012 #91

Thanks krispos42 Feb 2012 #98

You're welcome. ellisonz Feb 2012 #100

I got them up... eventually. krispos42 Feb 2012 #119

Dude ellisonz Feb 2012 #120

uh-oh Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #101

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #102

I will go as far as to say that I think Forum Hosts Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #112

I'd swear I saw a flock of pigs fly across the highway a couple of hours ago. NT Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #105

they earned their wings Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #113

I am still absolutely failing to see iverglas Feb 2012 #114

Really? Straw Man Feb 2012 #115

really iverglas Feb 2012 #116

I see. Straw Man Feb 2012 #117

well hmm iverglas Feb 2012 #122

What's that in the sky? Straw Man Feb 2012 #124

Then you missed the exchange... krispos42 Feb 2012 #118

yeah, and it's POSSIBLE iverglas Feb 2012 #121

It's also possible krispos42 Feb 2012 #123

Re-read what you posted... Clames Jan 2012 #18

Aww...thanks buddy! ellisonz Jan 2012 #23

You have a poor memory one-eyed fat man Jan 2012 #32

I think you're probably simplifying arguments... ellisonz Jan 2012 #34

You support those that do. one-eyed fat man Jan 2012 #45

You object to democracy every single day, I believe. krispos42 Jan 2012 #7

good god, man iverglas Feb 2012 #69

not the same thing gejohnston Feb 2012 #70

I didn't SAY it is the same thing. iverglas Feb 2012 #73

If you say so gejohnston Feb 2012 #85

The only legitimate way to control the legislative process... krispos42 Feb 2012 #87

The NRA favors profits by gun manufactures over all else. Profits over humans. Where have I heard rhett o rick Jan 2012 #3

The last time you said it? n/t oneshooter Jan 2012 #5

Maybe so. Well then, maybe I should say it again. the NRA is more concerned with profits rhett o rick Jan 2012 #11

Really? Is that why they sponser childrens safety training? PavePusher Jan 2012 #16

Please dont try to rationalize this. The NRA is funded and backed by gun manufacturers. rhett o rick Jan 2012 #21

Cite to their funding sources, please. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #26

Your interlocutor seems to have gone missing after your awkward question. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #40

Typical gun controller behavior pattern DonP Jan 2012 #42

+1 X_Digger Jan 2012 #46

I've been asking them that question for around 2 years now. Always the same reaction. DonP Jan 2012 #47

Pretty soon... ellisonz Jan 2012 #49

Kind of ironic ... Straw Man Jan 2012 #51

Kinda ironic that your name is Straw Man... ellisonz Jan 2012 #52

Yes, isn't it? Straw Man Jan 2012 #62

Ancient history at this point. ellisonz Jan 2012 #63

Ancient history? Straw Man Feb 2012 #65

To someone around 25, two years ago is 'ancient history', I suppose. n/t X_Digger Feb 2012 #66

The American political clock moves in steadily, but surely every 2 years. ellisonz Feb 2012 #92

They've been on the side of the second amendment for 130+ years X_Digger Feb 2012 #93

We'll all continue to give your POV all the respect it deserves DonP Jan 2012 #53

lol ellisonz Jan 2012 #54

So what have you done in the real world for gun control? DonP Jan 2012 #55

Really? ellisonz Jan 2012 #57

I expect reason and the basic principle of one-person one-vote in a free and fair election to carry gejohnston Jan 2012 #58

That's pretty much what I thought. Good for you. DonP Jan 2012 #59

Unsubscribe from the DNC mailing list? ellisonz Jan 2012 #64

The NRA if funded by over 4 million dues paying members. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #28

"The NRA is funded and backed by gun manufacturers." rl6214 Jan 2012 #30

That would be the NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) that represents Mfrs. DonP Jan 2012 #36

Ratoinalize??? ... It's simple math: 4,000,000 members x $20 = $80,000,000 per year. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2012 #50

"The NRA is funded and backed by gun manufacturers." Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #74

The NRA is not at all concerned with gun manufacturers profits, that's just something you made up rl6214 Jan 2012 #29

?! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #103

Nope - you're wrong liberal_biker Feb 2012 #104

"Guns, are they a substitute for masculine deficiency?" Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #106

Profits over people? Sounds like a standard RW objective. baldguy Jan 2012 #8

I agree. NRA is a right wing organization. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #10

Guns are an important part of right wing existence. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #12

You have the avatar of a sectarian terrorist who planted a bomb. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #43

Yes I have an avatar, but no gun. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #44

The avatar of a man who wanted to use a bomb to impose his religion. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #72

No. He has an avatar of the group Anonymous. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #96

Which uses a mask of Guy Fawkes, attempted terrorist, as used by Alan Moore: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #107

Anonymous doesn't want to kill anybody. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #109

Who to believe, you or the guy that created it? I'll go with the creator: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #110

In which way does that prove Anonymous wants to kill people? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #111

Oh, I'll bet in the threads about Apple Computer. krispos42 Jan 2012 #15

Its not the pro-RKBA side that got spanked by the Heller decision. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #13

Hennigan... Clames Jan 2012 #20

I am thrilled that the Brady Bunch lunatics are forced to accept Heller as a victory. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #48

Mission Accomplished: Strawman Demolished! X_Digger Jan 2012 #19

Depends on... ellisonz Jan 2012 #24

Oh come on, henigan from the brady bunch? rl6214 Jan 2012 #25

Ha Ha Ha. NRA nuts! Bloberman1959 Jan 2012 #33

"NRA Nuts", ummm, does that include you fellow DU members that belong to the NRA? DonP Jan 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #60

It includes my gun nut neighbor that got banned from DU. Ha Ha Ha. Bloberman1959 Feb 2012 #125

Sounds like hoplophobe gibberish to me. NT Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #61

I'm sure it does. Bloberman1959 Feb 2012 #126

The Brady Campaign as a source??!? ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #39

Notice Henigan's backhanded acknowledgement of Heller's validity in that piece. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #41

Yep, the judge be right. Heller was "quite narrow," despite what the NRA told their minions. Hoyt Jan 2012 #56

Unfortunately for those on the pro-gun control side, McDonald was not "quite narrow"... S_B_Jackson Feb 2012 #89

You better hold em tight. Hoyt Feb 2012 #90

Do you disagree that states and municipalities who are intent upon infringing S_B_Jackson Feb 2012 #94

Yep, Heller was narrow pipoman Feb 2012 #71

Just shows how easily precedent is reversed -- especially 5/4 decision on issues like guns. Hoyt Feb 2012 #95

What, pray tell, was reversed? pipoman Feb 2012 #97

You have many examples.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #99

oh. more GOP-founded, GOP-led stuff. false alarm. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #108