Gun Control & RKBA

ManiacJoe

(10,138 posts)

70. A gamble it is.

Wed Feb 1, 2012, 01:44 AM

Feb 2012

> Life is a gamble and I play the odds.

I have no problem with that. Out of laziness I do the same much of the time. However, to suggest that it is the better thing to do is rather foolish. While I may not have a gun always with me, I am not necessarily unarmed.

> While you might find it fun or reassuring to lug around a handgun 24/7, I pretty much find it a pain in the ass.

A better holster and belt would probably help with that.

> If 99.999% of the citizens of this country never get killed by a criminal, the odds don't justify carrying 24/7.

Depends on how much you value your life. If that 0.001% catches up with you, you will not get a do-over. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. The Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared.

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Three recent examples of why we carry in restaurants. [View all] GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 OP

I toted my 9c last night out to dinner....pretty uncommon for me. ileus Jan 2012 #1

does it conceal well? YllwFvr Jan 2012 #34

Until I switched to using a laser vs iron sights DWC Jan 2012 #41

It's just as wide as the glock, a little shorter length and heightwise... ileus Jan 2012 #55

Why geckosfeet Jan 2012 #2

Because there's constantly people insisting anyone who carries a weapon is a psychopath. TheWraith Jan 2012 #4

I don't know. I still don't think it's ayone elses business. geckosfeet Jan 2012 #37

I consider this group to be my "gun club" OriginalGeek Jan 2012 #52

why, exactly? iverglas Feb 2012 #91

Why do you care how I see it? OriginalGeek Feb 2012 #93

well I just don't know iverglas Feb 2012 #94

Do people come in here and talk about guns? OriginalGeek Feb 2012 #99

talk about guns favourably? iverglas Feb 2012 #100

They Don't DWC Jan 2012 #42

Anywhere might be a stretch Hawkowl Jan 2012 #3

Feeding carriers' paranoia. Hoyt Jan 2012 #5

Wow! Totally understand now! Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #6

So-o-o-o, there are only 3 examples? Really?... SteveW Jan 2012 #7

What's your mpg on your Bearcat? Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #8

I don't have a Bearcat, but will accept delevery on a Ferret next month. oneshooter Jan 2012 #15

Full sheep dip should do the trick. Include yourself. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #16

work on your love handles YllwFvr Jan 2012 #35

You don't put fucking carpet in a bomb shelter. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #43

And when a CCW permit holder appears to be meekly complying Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #12

Rand makes this amazing quote... SteveW Jan 2012 #17

One person's experience, (mine) but the number Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #22

Three is enough to demonstrate why. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #27

Steve W is *supporting* your case, GSC. NT Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #33

OOPS. Sorry. Replied to wrong post. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #38

And the first one was not even in the restaurant Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #84

When I start feeling it is so safeinOhio Jan 2012 #9

You missed the point entirely. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #29

We? safeinOhio Jan 2012 #30

Ane if you guess wrong and trouble surprises you? GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #62

Life is a gamble safeinOhio Jan 2012 #68

A gamble it is. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #70

A Kel-Tec P3AT weight only 11 oz fully loaded. GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #71

A Kel-Tec P32 weighs only 9.5 oz. Straw Man Feb 2012 #87

My 32 Seecamp is just as light and small. safeinOhio Feb 2012 #89

In Texas valid no guns signs are rare. GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #90

It happens when you least expect it. jeepnstein Feb 2012 #82

"it"? what "it"? iverglas Feb 2012 #101

"it" = an encounter with a convicted murderer ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #105

My car has bumpers, crumple zones, multiple air bags, restraints, anti-lock brakes, a safety cage, s AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #44

We went to a Applebee's in Kansas City last night. RC Jan 2012 #10

Who's "bragging?" More straw? SteveW Jan 2012 #18

The real reality is this nation is awash in hand guns. RC Jan 2012 #23

The reality is violent crime rates are down, guns "awash" or no... SteveW Jan 2012 #24

It seems to work well with some frequency. PavePusher Jan 2012 #25

You can be a helpless victim if you think that is better. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #28

After 67 years, I have never been a victim. RC Jan 2012 #32

May your good luck continue. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #63

It's a bit more complicated. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #40

Three recent examples of accidental shootings. pnwmom Jan 2012 #11

No it doesn't. After years of "gun crime" postings, just leveling the playing field. SteveW Jan 2012 #19

Here are some disturbing statistics related to children and guns. pnwmom Jan 2012 #53

A couple of flaws gejohnston Jan 2012 #54

Not every child would learn from a block of ice. The young teen I know who was accidentally killed pnwmom Jan 2012 #56

kids are grown gejohnston Jan 2012 #58

I have firearms in my house.... liberal_biker Jan 2012 #59

In the scenario you describe, in most states you would have both legal and moral responsibility. pnwmom Jan 2012 #60

Nope - not true at all. liberal_biker Jan 2012 #61

Good luck with that argument in a CIVIL suit. (Check with your homeowner's insurance agent pnwmom Jan 2012 #64

Hate to tell ya liberal_biker Jan 2012 #66

Like I said, talk to your homeowner's insurance agent. pnwmom Jan 2012 #69

Nope sorry but you're wrong. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #72

Your insurance agent would be able to tell you about CIVIL liability, pnwmom Feb 2012 #77

Wrong AGAIN. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #80

"......talk to your homeowner's insurance agent." Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #73

Funny isnt it? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #74

"Hence the belief that doctors who try to treat firearms as a disease Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #75

Here's a classic example of what happens when an anti-gun physician Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #76

Most homeowners policies include protection against liability pnwmom Feb 2012 #78

Again, insurance agents are not experts on civil law. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #79

Most AGENTS.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #81

Fine. But when you're sued because you did something stupid pnwmom Feb 2012 #83

So lets see.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #85

You couldn't be more wrong. At least 28 states have safe storage laws, not 1. pnwmom Feb 2012 #86

Nope - still right. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #88

You are wrong. Texas DOES have "safe storage/child access prevention laws." pnwmom Feb 2012 #103

Try again liberal_biker Feb 2012 #107

You said that Texas didn't have a child access law. And you were wrong. pnwmom Feb 2012 #109

You seem to be under the impression they are not secured.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #110

I gave you the actual statute, and you're still complaining about my source? pnwmom Feb 2012 #111

You presented the statute.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #112

If I was on a jury deciding a case like this, pnwmom Feb 2012 #113

Did you completely ignore what I have said more than once? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #114

Your final line is what I always consider the most useful message of injury/mortality petronius Jan 2012 #57

If you were truly concerned about child safety you would be concerned about.... GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #65

You're leaving out all the kids who are killed with guns pnwmom Feb 2012 #104

define kids gejohnston Feb 2012 #106

You have actual proof of this? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #108

Well, something is working: Gun-involved childhood accidents are on the decline. SteveW Feb 2012 #115

And yet... Clames Jan 2012 #21

Exactly the point. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #45

My friend working at an Applebees was telling me this couple was sitting at their bar minding their southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #13

Gun fight at the OK Corral Marnie Jan 2012 #14

Or you can take the knife "fight;" more moral, perhaps? nt SteveW Jan 2012 #20

Is there something improper about defending oneself at a restaurant? PavePusher Jan 2012 #26

That would be "Gun fight at the Golden Corral" (nt) Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #50

You really only need one, burf Jan 2012 #31

And this is why you should... ellisonz Jan 2012 #36

I see no problem with that. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #39

Given that in 6 years, the TSA has confiscated over 900 firearms AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #46

People with no criminal intent aren't the problem. PavePusher Jan 2012 #47

re: "...this is why you should... be able to carry..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #48

There's more ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #49

It could have just been a suicide Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #51

Wanna buy some beach front property I have in New Mexico? Spoonman Jan 2012 #67

guess the old MSM didn't do theirs either iverglas Feb 2012 #92

his name is not in the system gejohnston Feb 2012 #95

well, gosh, like I said: iverglas Feb 2012 #96

that does not come up either gejohnston Feb 2012 #97

yeah, right iverglas Feb 2012 #98

I don't know about this gejohnston Feb 2012 #102