Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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61. a lot wrong with that.

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:07 PM

Jun 2013

I can write a shall issue law that would disqualify most of the CCW holders in New York City. Shall issue simply means objective criteria outlined in the statute, and the cops or judge does not have any arbitrary authority.
It can by simply be "Concealed carry permits shall be issued to only to individuals who meet the following criteria
score 25 on practical test
score 75 on written test
have an income less than $30K per year"
If NYC adopted this shall issue law, it would disqualify most if not all of its current CCW holders including the publisher of the NYT, Sean Hannity, Don Imus, Bill Cosby, Donald Trump, Howard Stern.

Of course, it still wouldn't be recognized in Wyoming because because NY permits are issued by the counties instead of a state agency, and NY doesn't have any actual standards.

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Sheriff's East L.A. station holding gun buyback today (funded by forfeiture $$$) [View all] petronius Jun 2013 OP

I wonder if Tom Sachs will be there gejohnston Jun 2013 #1

Public money into corporate pockets. Hmmm. ntt rrneck Jun 2013 #2

Like food stamps BainsBane Jun 2013 #4

Please see post #37. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #38

can you explain to me Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #9

If the money is going to feed the poor that's fine. rrneck Jun 2013 #37

ok, got it. thanks. and agree. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #39

My God, what a travesty BainsBane Jun 2013 #3

Do you have any evidence that any were "on the street" to begin with? beevul Jun 2013 #5

that's not what the street means BainsBane Jun 2013 #7

I don't believe I expressed any outrage. beevul Jun 2013 #12

We are talking about the guns "willingly" relinquished BainsBane Jun 2013 #17

Did someone say we weren't? beevul Jun 2013 #21

You use the term street in correctly BainsBane Jun 2013 #26

Again with the carnac... beevul Jun 2013 #29

Your geographic bigotry is unbecoming of DU friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #69

Safes are not an "undue burden under the Second Amendment." Undue burdens are... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #34

Moreover, given this group's commitment to making concealed carry BainsBane Jun 2013 #8

You still harping on that? premium Jun 2013 #10

Right, try some more sexist tropes BainsBane Jun 2013 #13

Sexist tropes? premium Jun 2013 #15

Yes, well when one's concept of education BainsBane Jun 2013 #20

Is "harp on" (harping, harped, etc) automatically sexist? petronius Jun 2013 #35

the old double standard Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #40

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #45

Typical. premium Jun 2013 #65

Its already "universal". beevul Jun 2013 #14

It is not universal BainsBane Jun 2013 #19

Tell me, which state doesn't have concealed carry? beevul Jun 2013 #23

not quite gejohnston Jun 2013 #24

Wikipedia has a map about concealed carry BainsBane Jun 2013 #27

they don't win, that's the point. gejohnston Jun 2013 #30

This one statement says all I need to know when you discuss this topic. CokeMachine Jun 2013 #46

Actually, states have powers to regulate the method of carry... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #36

or Kimber's shitty security gejohnston Jun 2013 #42

I don't get it. Though not widespread, There is a drip-drip reminder that human resources... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #48

Negligence in distribution? GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #79

What group has a commitment to making concealed carry universal? Did you just make that up? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #44

Here BainsBane Jun 2013 #60

a lot wrong with that. gejohnston Jun 2013 #61

Hello? Earth to gun proponent? BainsBane Jun 2013 #73

there is a difference between genuine concern gejohnston Jun 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author premium Jun 2013 #75

So much whargarble. beevul Jun 2013 #62

I'm sure it's just an oversight on your part BainsBane Jun 2013 #72

How do you, personally, guage compassion? beevul Jun 2013 #76

the only way Bain sees compassion Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #78

And how many people involved in that shootout were legal gun owners? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #70

Who knows? BainsBane Jun 2013 #71

You just can't quit can you. beevul Jun 2013 #77

Even Joyce Foundation shill Gaven Wintemute knows better gejohnston Jun 2013 #16

So what's the problem then? BainsBane Jun 2013 #18

because the money could be better spent gejohnston Jun 2013 #25

Well if it's not your tax dollars BainsBane Jun 2013 #28

You are assuming I don't have a house in East LA gejohnston Jun 2013 #31

there is no constitutional issue in gun buy backs BainsBane Jun 2013 #32

Obviously you don't live in East LA BainsBane Jun 2013 #33

wow. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #41

Do you actually think anyone in an urban area BainsBane Jun 2013 #51

yet guns are banned there. gejohnston Jun 2013 #54

you assume a lot.and your assumptions are insulting. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #57

The woo is strong, I'll grant you that. beevul Jun 2013 #68

Here I thought the it was the Wyoming flag gejohnston Jun 2013 #43

That doesn't look like a flag to me. BainsBane Jun 2013 #52

I said sometimes gejohnston Jun 2013 #53

Well, I did think that BainsBane Jun 2013 #55

once again you are wrong, please do some research gejohnston Jun 2013 #56

That's why I'm less supportive of public funds being used, and why this article petronius Jun 2013 #22

The story is questionable. They are going to destroy all of them and not keep any as "drop guns"? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #6

Oh, I'm sure they'll keep the best ones for themselves, premium Jun 2013 #11

I wonder how anonymous this really is. And when will there be a buy-back in Westwood, Santa Monica? NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #47

"A good negro is contaminated by the possession of a weapon.... Disarm the Negro." Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #50

In today's world the only color that matters is green. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #59

It has been that way since the Lydians invented money in about 700 BCE. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #80

true but, even more so today as we have really moved away from hunting, farming, gathering, Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #81

This thread is a testament to the brokenness of the jury system. beevul Jun 2013 #49

Double Standards Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #58

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #63

And there we have it. beevul Jun 2013 #66

This is hypocrisy at it's best. premium Jun 2013 #67

If people want to risk their lives by disarming I don't see a problem. ileus Jun 2013 #64