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In reply to the discussion: The meaning of the Second Amendment (One Perspective) [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,497 posts)114. Do you understand and believe in Democracy?
Huh? we the people spoke? 56% yes, 44% no?
If a vote is taken and of the 100 people, 48 vote 'yes', 38 vote 'no' and 14 don't answer, then it is correct to say that 'the people spoke'. Implying that those voting in the minority, the 44% who said 'no' did not vote is, well, wrong. One person, one vote; that's how we do it.
You suggest here:
"If you don't realize that the heller decision was a poltically motivated verdict by a rightwing jury to side with their republican gunnut base, you were born yday. It was pretty much decided from the gitgo how the justices would rule, only kennedy was the coin flip. You sound pretty proud of your conservative rightwing heros, shouldn't you be on 'Republican Underground'?"
...that I belong on 'Republican Underground'. I note from the poll you quote (copied below) that 41% of our fellow Democrats seem to agree with this same opinion. I suggest that, while discussing and even disagreeing over this is the very essence of freedom, disparaging those with whom you disagree is less than honorable.
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From your post #101:
cbs1999: Do you think {2A} guarantees all Americans the right to own guns, or does it not necessarily guarantee that?"
..................... all .. repubs .. dems .. ind
Does guarantee 48 ......59 ......41 ....46
Not necessarily 38 .....30 ......44 ....39 ------ No ans 14..11 ..15 ..15
..................... all .. repubs .. dems .. ind
Does guarantee 48 ......59 ......41 ....46
Not necessarily 38 .....30 ......44 ....39 ------ No ans 14..11 ..15 ..15
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The Girandoni Repeating Rifle appeared in the US prior to the ratification.
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2013
#85
The guy who played Scottie in the original Star Trek took six MG rounds on Juno Beach.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Jun 2013
#59
Eddy Albert was the real deal at Tarawa. It's good to see that he had a successful film career.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#62
1776 - first amphibious raid at Fort Nassau, Bahamas. They captured the Governor and took 100 guns.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#56
I've got to say..... the 3rd Amendment has kept the redbacks from quartering troops at my house!
rdharma
Jun 2013
#6
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, ........
rdharma
Jun 2013
#33
Careful - Congress was NOT given power to create the militias - only to organize/regulate
jmg257
Jun 2013
#79
Without the right to life, and thus the ability to defend it no other rights matter.
ileus
Jun 2013
#65
Never underestimate the importance of the regulated militias. And of course the necessity to remove
jmg257
Jun 2013
#68
And no mention that the RKBA was understoood as exclusively for militia service
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#142
That is all well and good, but your argument is that the militia is the ONLY purpose to
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#156
...the right of the people to keep and serve in the militia, shall not be infringed ?
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#173
Not sure what you mean "to the terms" -do you mean keeping and bearing arms?
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#184
Of course A1/S8 talks of the people keeping arms..."organizing arming & disciplining the militias",
jmg257
Jul 2013
#185
Thanks - I didn't know there was a fund involved in getting someone to take your place.
jmg257
Jul 2013
#189
I'd vote for State being one of the 13 states in the union, and MAYBE also the Republic.
jmg257
Jul 2013
#152
Yes, same for all in that it describes the character of the state, country. or government.
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#159
And what of Keep arms? And what of those instances where persons spoke of the right to bear arms
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#178
If you do not care about the main point of contention in Heller, why bother?
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#183