Gun Control & RKBA

BainsBane

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178. The AWB

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 05:13 AM

Jun 2013

The narrative they advance here is that background checks passed because people talked about banning assault rifles and that forced the otherwise reasonable NRA to oppose background checks. Pure BS and entirely counterfactual to the events surrounding the actual bill.

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Evil fucks BainsBane Jun 2013 #1

Awww, do you has a sad? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #27

and you aren't saddened by the fact that all that the magazines of choice BainsBane Jun 2013 #29

My, how quickly you lot 'forget' Virginia Tech when the circumstances become inconvenient... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #30

non-sequitur much? BainsBane Jun 2013 #32

Wrong, premium Jun 2013 #35

Oh, I see BainsBane Jun 2013 #36

I didn't adamently oppose most of the SOP, premium Jun 2013 #39

That's too bad BainsBane Jun 2013 #40

I got angry, wrongly admittedly, premium Jun 2013 #44

Your mistake is thinking emotion and fact are separate BainsBane Jun 2013 #54

You're correct mostly, premium Jun 2013 #59

All of us have done something similar BainsBane Jun 2013 #64

and you are not banned from here Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #105

Someone did tell me I wasn't welcome BainsBane Jun 2013 #108

Nobody told you that. beevul Jun 2013 #143

At your request BainsBane Jun 2013 #144

Nowhere in that post did I state you were unwelcome. beevul Jun 2013 #146

I am perfectly capable of reading BainsBane Jun 2013 #148

Yup, they are, though they wont ignore this like you did - my reply: beevul Jun 2013 #149

My intentions BainsBane Jun 2013 #150

The other group isn't the only one with an SOP. beevul Jun 2013 #157

That was great!!! I iwish I could rec individual posts!! CokeMachine Jun 2013 #158

I thought I was conversing with "pro-gun Democrats" BainsBane Jun 2013 #159

You just can't stop can you. beevul Jun 2013 #160

It is clear if you read BainsBane Jun 2013 #161

You do your best to follow it when it suits you. beevul Jun 2013 #184

WOW -- another home run!! Thank you! CokeMachine Jun 2013 #187

Thanks. beevul Jun 2013 #188

Do a search on that group for the newly banned poster. CokeMachine Jun 2013 #46

Yep, it's there for all to see. premium Jun 2013 #47

Not only that... krispos42 Jun 2013 #109

That's pretty low class gejohnston Jun 2013 #115

*shrug* krispos42 Jun 2013 #117

Not the "impression", so much as the assertion, I think. beevul Jun 2013 #145

Can you post some of those discussions here? Or is that a no-no? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #123

I think I could and be within the rules. krispos42 Jun 2013 #132

I for one would like to see it. beevul Jun 2013 #147

I figured they did, premium Jun 2013 #135

I like the no warning Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #104

And when somebody gets the nuke... krispos42 Jun 2013 #107

I was ROBBED! I mean literally. My blocking from that group was below rookie. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #151

When he blocked me, premium Jun 2013 #152

That's more than I got. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #153

LOL nt. premium Jun 2013 #154

SOP over there, join the club Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #155

You obviously don't fit the SOP BainsBane Jun 2013 #170

Sorry but no, I was not there to obstruct Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #179

I see you're *still* misrepresenting other DUers here. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #37

"Demonstrably ineffective" BainsBane Jun 2013 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author premium Jun 2013 #41

This would be a good example BainsBane Jun 2013 #42

Oh bull, I'm stating a fact that goes against your premium Jun 2013 #45

very few BainsBane Jun 2013 #48

Lanza wasn't killed while reloading, he took his own life when premium Jun 2013 #49

Oh right. BainsBane Jun 2013 #52

That is correct, a teacher was able to get several children premium Jun 2013 #56

But we don't want the gun control *they* want- therefore we want none, in their eyes friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #106

"the fact they have no other purpose but mass murder" Pure, unadulterated bullshit. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #50

So what are they used for? BainsBane Jun 2013 #51

When you're at the range or just out in the desert premium Jun 2013 #53

There is an easy solution to that BainsBane Jun 2013 #57

Most shooting ranges don't have storage facilities. Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #127

I don't have Jenoch Jun 2013 #137

Same as me. premium Jun 2013 #138

We have a 100 yard shooting range cut into Jenoch Jun 2013 #140

Primarily? Plinking at (inanimate) targets. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #55

Which is exactly what I said BainsBane Jun 2013 #58

During my 30+ year career as an armed USFS Ranger, premium Jun 2013 #61

Why isn't it workable? BainsBane Jun 2013 #68

Too many hi cap mags in public hands premium Jun 2013 #71

All of the proposed provisions have been for new sales BainsBane Jun 2013 #84

I've come out in favor of a 15 round limit premium Jun 2013 #86

Are there magazines that size? BainsBane Jun 2013 #94

I prefer 20 round magazines Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #113

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #177

might just work Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #111

Obviously they are used to murder lots of people BainsBane Jun 2013 #70

See, you're doing it again, premium Jun 2013 #74

The majority don't need to be used in mass murders BainsBane Jun 2013 #89

open to compramise gejohnston Jun 2013 #90

The word is compromise BainsBane Jun 2013 #96

Like what? gejohnston Jun 2013 #101

Yet once again, you refuse to consider the mortality BainsBane Jun 2013 #97

I only consider the effectiveness gejohnston Jun 2013 #100

Less than 3% of the people who die by gunshot isn't 'lots of people' in any meaningful sense. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #193

No, you said is was a "fact they have no other purpose but mass murder." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #63

Reading is fundamental BainsBane Jun 2013 #69

Ah, so YOU contradict yourself within a single paragraph, and it's MY problem? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #72

Careful CokeMachine Jun 2013 #73

At least I can read BainsBane Jun 2013 #91

Forgotten more about reading than you'll ever know, Sparky. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #103

You're lecturing me about conversing like an adult? BainsBane Jun 2013 #156

If you're going to call something a "fact," consider selecting things that are, you know...true. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #162

Well you did just that BainsBane Jun 2013 #163

They are very effective for self defense gejohnston Jun 2013 #76

How do you figure that? BainsBane Jun 2013 #92

If they weren't, cops and military wouldn't use them. gejohnston Jun 2013 #98

How can a 30 round magazine Jenoch Jun 2013 #139

Which is why they are standard issue for law enforcement... beevul Jun 2013 #66

Unless you do change the SOP of this group BainsBane Jun 2013 #83

I like having you here Duckhunter935 Jun 2013 #116

Beevul disagrees BainsBane Jun 2013 #120

Reading comprehension is your friend. beevul Jun 2013 #141

Great reply -- wish I had your patience. nt CokeMachine Jun 2013 #142

Society would be a lot better off if cops didn't have such large magazines anyway BainsBane Jun 2013 #85

Even when they had mostly six shot revolvers gejohnston Jun 2013 #87

no doubt BainsBane Jun 2013 #95

Obviously I don't think that BainsBane Jun 2013 #79

Ok, thats a fair point premium Jun 2013 #80

Yep, demonstrably inffective. The VT shooter killed more people w/ smaller magazines. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #43

Know what else killed more people BainsBane Jun 2013 #81

More misrepresentation BainsBane Jun 2013 #82

I'll leave the interpretation of Fox to you. I don't watch it. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #131

And the amendment applied to shit like AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #195

False on every front BainsBane Jun 2013 #78

If you are going to use the term, at least use it correctly oneshooter Jun 2013 #88

Actually it's the Gun Control Reform Activism Group BainsBane Jun 2013 #99

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #102

Well, I have my own name for this group BainsBane Jun 2013 #110

Stick with 'Gungeon'- it has a long history here at DU. You don't... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #112

If you insist on insulting Democrats who support Democratic Party policy BainsBane Jun 2013 #114

"Democratic Party policy" like thinking the Second Amendment protects an individual right? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #118

No one is challenging that BainsBane Jun 2013 #119

Next time a universal background check proposal appears in Congress... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #121

still rewriting history BainsBane Jun 2013 #122

Not a bit. D. Feinstein tried to weld it to an assault weapon ban- and lost big time. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #125

Oh, so your point is not what was it play at the time of the vote? BainsBane Jun 2013 #126

WTF are you talking about? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #128

You've obviously created your own alternate reality BainsBane Jun 2013 #133

"...because we dared to discuss a radical provision passed under George W Bush. " Jenoch Jun 2013 #136

The AWB BainsBane Jun 2013 #178

The AWB was passed and went into effect in 1994. Jenoch Jun 2013 #180

and was renewed under Bush BainsBane Jun 2013 #181

If you are going to discuss Jenoch Jun 2013 #182

I stand corrected BainsBane Jun 2013 #183

"So members here are to the right of George W Bush." Jenoch Jun 2013 #185

It is useful to know, however BainsBane Jun 2013 #124

Please, *do* go on- I'm dying to see where you go with this... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #129

The AWB BainsBane Jun 2013 #164

actually no, gejohnston Jun 2013 #167

and you all oppose that now BainsBane Jun 2013 #168

No because it isn't a right left issue gejohnston Jun 2013 #171

polling data indicates otherwise BainsBane Jun 2013 #172

at one time we did gejohnston Jun 2013 #173

Don't you think that probably makes you more BainsBane Jun 2013 #174

no gejohnston Jun 2013 #175

A reminder... Jenoch Jul 2013 #189

How do you kill 50 children with one 30 round mag? AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #192

magazine of choice? bossy22 Jun 2013 #77

Then we should all get behind changing that BainsBane Jun 2013 #93

Good luck with your "beer keg ban"! friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #130

You're lost again BainsBane Jun 2013 #165

Cheap advertising. nt rrneck Jun 2013 #2

Does that mean they aren't moving out of Colorado? rdharma Jun 2013 #3

They've already started moving their operations to premium Jun 2013 #4

Good! rdharma Jun 2013 #5

Yeah, premium Jun 2013 #6

MagPul wanted to move to a "right to work" minimum wage state! rdharma Jun 2013 #7

And you know they wanted to move premium Jun 2013 #8

Oh, they said that? rdharma Jun 2013 #9

They said it and I'll take their word over yours. premium Jun 2013 #10

Cheap minimum wage non-union labor.... no benefits.... low taxes. rdharma Jun 2013 #11

was it a union shop to begin with? gejohnston Jun 2013 #12

"Colorado has lower taxes" HUH?!!!!!!! rdharma Jun 2013 #13

State income taxes for CO is a flat 4.7 percent gejohnston Jun 2013 #14

It's a manufacturer...... not your personal income taxes! rdharma Jun 2013 #15

Colorado has a lower corporate tax rate than SC hack89 Jun 2013 #19

That seems to have shut him up, certainly on the subject of tax rates DonP Jun 2013 #23

Stag Arms is still in CT as of right now. Lurks Often Jun 2013 #34

You 'bong'ed him pretty good with that gem. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #28

those are lower in CO too. gejohnston Jun 2013 #20

Now that you've conclusively refuted rdharma's argument, I'm confident he'll man up and admit it. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #21

You have no idea what side I'm on premium Jun 2013 #16

Y'all be kind to him- school's out, and he's got a lot of time on his hands. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #31

Most of them have that effect. N/T beevul Jun 2013 #67

As do you all BainsBane Jun 2013 #169

Like you BainsBane Jun 2013 #166

So you are still politically impotent and ineffective but you are more motivated hack89 Jun 2013 #186

Link? ileus Jun 2013 #18

A mag limit of 15 rounds is reasonable under what basis armueller2001 Jun 2013 #24

There are several sites that have pmags in stock now for 15 bucks ileus Jun 2013 #17

mag suckers pulled in by magpul jimmy the one Jun 2013 #22

But wait, there's more! HolyMoley Jun 2013 #25

farewell to con men jimmy the one Jun 2013 #26

Hey JtO, premium Jun 2013 #33

That was a close one for JtO CokeMachine Jun 2013 #60

Yep, premium Jun 2013 #62

for the record jimmy the one Jun 2013 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #176

Bye bye locks Jun 2013 #65

Got any proof of that?? CokeMachine Jun 2013 #75

Aw. Robb Jul 2013 #190

Aww -- you are one to critique!!!! CokeMachine Jul 2013 #191

That was a classic, premium Jul 2013 #194

Aw. Robb Jul 2013 #198

I don't want any gravedancing in the Gungeon over banned members of either side. krispos42 Jul 2013 #210

Heaven forfend. Robb Jul 2013 #211

A 3-year-old link to GD on DU2 is relevant... how? krispos42 Jul 2013 #212

The double standard is remarkable. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #196

Aw. Robb Jul 2013 #197

Thanks for dropping by and... beevul Jul 2013 #199

Were those banned trolls buddies of yours? Robb Jul 2013 #200

Says the one trolling... beevul Jul 2013 #201

I know it is a discussion Progressive Gun Enthusiasts(tm) are loathe to have... Robb Jul 2013 #202

Non sequitur. beevul Jul 2013 #203

You've rather made my point for me. Robb Jul 2013 #204

4 posts now in this thread... beevul Jul 2013 #206

Jury results Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #205

This groups SOP says... beevul Jul 2013 #207

He's just pointing out participants in this thread who have been banned. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #208

If you say so... beevul Jul 2013 #209