Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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8. Very true, but that sword cuts both ways.

Sun Jun 30, 2013, 04:04 PM

Jun 2013

There are a few extremists on both sides of the RKBA issue, who are inflexible and intolerant of the views and experiences of others. I guess that's not uncommon when debating such a controversial subject. I find a similar dynamic in the Religion group.
Too many folk think they have the answers, when they haven't even asked, let alone considered the relevant questions. Something we're all guilty of at times. The important thing is to recognize that, otherwise there will be no productive discussion. For me, the whole point of being here is to learn and hopefully grow from the sharing of ideas with others who claim similar liberal political and social beliefs.

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Our SOP says... [View all] beevul Jun 2013 OP

I'm with you. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #1

Thumbs up! rdharma Jun 2013 #2

Are you willing to admit that you were wrong yet? nt. premium Jun 2013 #3

Completely agree. This practice has become institutional in this group. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #4

we call it getting H'd ileus Jun 2013 #5

H'd ... ? what is that? thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #13

Hidden, the raison d'etre of some controllers being here. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #22

Case in point. Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #26

Exactly AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #51

Agreed Lurks Often Jun 2013 #6

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #52

It's interesting to watch rrneck Jun 2013 #7

Very true, but that sword cuts both ways. Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #8

Any extremist on the pro gun side isn't around long. rrneck Jun 2013 #10

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2013 #12

That about sums it up. And woe onto those who break down Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #19

Agreed. And a good question... geckosfeet Jul 2013 #107

Well, there you go. Makes sense. rrneck Jul 2013 #111

Would you support the banning of the extremists on the other side, as they are on the pro-gun side? beevul Jun 2013 #14

This group is about RKBA and 2A Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #16

If I might also share an opinion discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #17

I agree with all except the last paragraph. Starboard Tack Jul 2013 #18

You post completely penetrated that poster's deception, Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #20

It's not a deception BainsBane Jul 2013 #27

So what does abolishing the 2A gain us? hack89 Jul 2013 #34

I don't actually support repeal BainsBane Jul 2013 #39

Reasonable assumption on your part. nt hack89 Jul 2013 #50

You simultaneous disavowal of being a gun prohibitionist Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #36

If you support UBG BainsBane Jul 2013 #38

Pure projection & more false accusations. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #71

Okay, I'm wrong BainsBane Jul 2013 #75

I posted elsewhere that I support this (in a thread laudatory of you!). Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #114

Great. Did you sent your letters to congress? BainsBane Jul 2013 #117

I will choose my own method of communicating to Congress Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #134

That system makes it very easy BainsBane Jul 2013 #136

Thanks for the info. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #169

What E38 said plus gejohnston Jul 2013 #115

If you want me to stop posting in the Gungeon BainsBane Jul 2013 #40

This makes no sense to me. nt Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #72

Why is that? BainsBane Jul 2013 #76

Please re-phrase. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #113

Let me try BainsBane Jul 2013 #119

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #123

Well, folks may not want to get rid of you so much as Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #133

Oh, and don't BainsBane Jul 2013 #55

Three (3) attempts to bait me? Please consolidate. nt Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #73

Bait? BainsBane Jul 2013 #77

Not really, since I've had 5 beers. Wouldn't need so much if I hadn't run out of Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #78

drugs, alcohol and guns. BainsBane Jul 2013 #79

The trick is to keep one of them separate from the others. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #112

Hopefully that one is the gun BainsBane Jul 2013 #120

So now you're prosecuting thought crimes? BainsBane Jul 2013 #25

Yeah, you're right. beevul Jul 2013 #32

I don't block anyone from anywhere BainsBane Jul 2013 #41

"So now you're imposing collective guilt?" Uh... Might wanna watch what you accuse: Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #42

and? BainsBane Jul 2013 #43

Just pointing out your hypocrisy. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #45

fair enough BainsBane Jul 2013 #47

Thank you. As always, you have my grudging respect and admiration. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #48

likewise. BainsBane Jul 2013 #49

Guilt by association would have been the more accurate term. BainsBane Jul 2013 #44

Ah, yes, that it would. I'd have no problem with that. :) Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #46

"...assured of an advantage..." On the nose. nt Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #23

a bully? BainsBane Jul 2013 #54

Self awareness is a good thing. rrneck Jul 2013 #56

No, I thought this thread was about the SOP of the gungeon? BainsBane Jul 2013 #57

You just never get tired rrneck Jul 2013 #58

I answered your question BainsBane Jul 2013 #59

Well, rrneck Jul 2013 #62

by here I meant he gungeon BainsBane Jul 2013 #63

From the OP... rrneck Jul 2013 #68

You consider my audacity in disagreeing with you bullying BainsBane Jul 2013 #74

Well, lets see... rrneck Jul 2013 #80

You need to read the thread more carefully BainsBane Jul 2013 #81

Well, all this picking around in threads is pretty tedious but so I could be wrong but... rrneck Jul 2013 #82

Here BainsBane Jul 2013 #84

Um, yeah. rrneck Jul 2013 #94

If you want me to "not run into a thread full steam" BainsBane Jul 2013 #97

Nobody was gossiping about you. rrneck Jul 2013 #99

When someone reproduces my post BainsBane Jul 2013 #101

You don't seem to understand rrneck Jul 2013 #110

You post dismisses the concerns of gun control proponents BainsBane Jul 2013 #121

Boilerplate. Have you given it any actual thought rrneck Jul 2013 #122

You ask for proof BainsBane Jul 2013 #130

actually, it isn't gejohnston Jul 2013 #132

Your rights to keep the nation in the dark BainsBane Jul 2013 #137

No, please re read what I wrote and refrain from misrepresting them gejohnston Jul 2013 #140

False BainsBane Jul 2013 #141

NIJ has been recieving funding as has NSF gejohnston Jul 2013 #142

Funny, because federal law specifically prohibits NIH from funding research BainsBane Jul 2013 #143

I didn't say NIH, I said NIJ gejohnston Jul 2013 #145

NIH is the largest federal funder BainsBane Jul 2013 #148

By the way BainsBane Jul 2013 #144

ALL federal funding contains a provision that the money cannot be used to lobby or promote political gejohnston Jul 2013 #146

exactly BainsBane Jul 2013 #149

not the same thing. gejohnston Jul 2013 #152

So which is it? BainsBane Jul 2013 #153

I support the ban on lobbying, not research. gejohnston Jul 2013 #154

So you would support lifting the ban on research? BainsBane Jul 2013 #155

illegal to conduct research geared toward a political agenda, ANY political agenda. gejohnston Jul 2013 #158

So the answer is no BainsBane Jul 2013 #161

You obviously did not read anything I said gejohnston Jul 2013 #164

You obviously did not read the APA article BainsBane Jul 2013 #168

actually my were gejohnston Jul 2013 #170

"What are you so afraid of they will find out?" Jenoch Jul 2013 #165

So rrneck Jul 2013 #135

You have evaded the issue BainsBane Jul 2013 #138

LOL! rrneck Jul 2013 #147

Yes, I've been discussing the ban on research BainsBane Jul 2013 #156

I've already seen your discussion with gejohnston. rrneck Jul 2013 #159

What I asked you to do was justify that background checks BainsBane Jul 2013 #162

Reloading... rrneck Jul 2013 #166

So shall I take your answer to be yes BainsBane Jul 2013 #139

I don't recognize any NRA talking points there. rrneck Jul 2013 #150

You continue to evade discussing anything of substance BainsBane Jul 2013 #157

For those of you just joining our little farce rrneck Jul 2013 #160

That's the question? BainsBane Jul 2013 #163

I'd love to see some links. rrneck Jul 2013 #167

"We seek to limit the most deadly weapons that have no role in hunting or self defense." Jenoch Jul 2013 #127

You might be giving yourself too much credit, again. Jenoch Jul 2013 #126

What part of leave me alone don't you understand? BainsBane Jul 2013 #129

I think they thought their Jenoch Jul 2013 #125

No. Wrong again. beevul Jul 2013 #83

Okay BainsBane Jul 2013 #85

Using one of your posts... beevul Jul 2013 #89

You most certainly were BainsBane Jul 2013 #90

No. You don't just get to define things how ever you see fit. beevul Jul 2013 #92

You reproduced my post BainsBane Jul 2013 #96

Look, I have to get up in 4 hours. beevul Jul 2013 #104

It is bad manners to gossip about anyone BainsBane Jul 2013 #131

Your name was not reproduced Jenoch Jul 2013 #128

I think you may be giving yourself too much credit. Jenoch Jul 2013 #124

I picture you as a Tac Recce pilot back in the day gejohnston Jul 2013 #60

Gosh, I'm honored BainsBane Jul 2013 #61

I think certain gun control supporters should be banned from this group. Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #9

FYI, Hoyt is already blocked from this group. CokeMachine Jun 2013 #11

"civil discussion"? With all of the insults thrown by the oneshooter Jun 2013 #15

Good luck with that. They are off the leash. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #21

LOL BainsBane Jul 2013 #24

Its not a matter of free speech, its a matter of behavior. beevul Jul 2013 #33

DU has an alert system if you find something uncivil BainsBane Jul 2013 #88

Ah yes, the "alert" gambit... beevul Jul 2013 #102

okay BainsBane Jul 2013 #105

No, its really NOT O.K. beevul Jul 2013 #172

I'm so sorry BainsBane Jul 2013 #28

What you just posted is proof the OP is right. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #29

I'm accused of committing thought crime BainsBane Jul 2013 #30

Two wrongs dont make a right. nt darkangel218 Jul 2013 #31

No, you're not accused of committing any "thought crime". beevul Jul 2013 #35

Cool story, bro BainsBane Jul 2013 #53

How are we to respond in your little group CokeMachine Jul 2013 #64

Have we gossiped about you? BainsBane Jul 2013 #65

Had to look that one up -- never heard it before. CokeMachine Jul 2013 #67

Not clever, only enabled. nt Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #37

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2013 #171

I agree SecularMotion Jul 2013 #66

I have yet to see a list of "NRA Talking Points". nt rrneck Jul 2013 #69

Here you are BainsBane Jul 2013 #86

Oh, that's nice. rrneck Jul 2013 #91

In other words BainsBane Jul 2013 #93

Well, I sure didn't ask you. rrneck Jul 2013 #95

Pardon me BainsBane Jul 2013 #98

You are pardoned. rrneck Jul 2013 #100

The question was NRA talking points BainsBane Jul 2013 #103

I said it was nice. rrneck Jul 2013 #109

What did you want to discuss? BainsBane Jul 2013 #116

If I were "put out" I wouldn't offer to discuss them. rrneck Jul 2013 #118

If you have such a list oneshooter Jul 2013 #70

Here BainsBane Jul 2013 #87

I will look at it in the morning. I have been up all night oneshooter Jul 2013 #106

lol darkangel218 Jul 2013 #108

No you are not! SoutherDem Jul 2013 #151