Illinois: Phelps files to override Quinn's amendatory veto of concealed carry bill.

[gejohnston]

60. strange,

none of that matches what I'm watching in person. I'm here. I am have been watching word for word, live stream in my office and I actually managed to take a day to attend in person.
The article is wrong on two things: Under every self defense law, even common law states like Wyoming and California, the threshold is "having a reasonable belief that one is about to suffer death or grave bodily injury."
The ME never examines Zimmerman's wounds and was fired for incompetence and unsanitary conditions in another county. The article writer misrepresented the PA's testimony at best.
Like I said, I watched it person. I really don't care what some blogger did not report from first hand, did not bother to research the relevant law. Given the power of Google, it quite easy to do. This is the very thing the Trib article talks about.
Here are the exact words:
O’Mara: “Medically speaking, would you say that whatever he did to stop the attack allowed him to survive it?” Folgate: “It could have, yes.”
The only eye witness, John Good, testified that he saw Martin straddling Zimmerman beating the shit out of him.

You can submit all you want. The State presented no such evidence in court, nor did it attempt to. That is the only thing it matters.
BTW, can you accurately describe "stand your ground" and how it differs from "duty to retreat"? Do you know the difference? It actually sounds like you are philosophically opposed to people defending themselves be it with a gun or switchblade.