Illinois: Phelps files to override Quinn's amendatory veto of concealed carry bill.

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62. I cited that article only for evidence that the Civil Rights Office

Is investigating stand your ground because you seemed to doubt that point of fact. The rest of the points are not at issue in this discussion.

You went from WY to Florida just to see that trial? WTF?

Everything I recounted has been argued by the state and some of it even by Zimmerman's lawyers. What evidence do you have that Zimmerman's injuries were serious? He didn't even get a CT-scan or MRI, which doctors order for me regularly.
The defense attorney has gotten nearly every witness to say something may have been possible. That doesn't mean it was true, and that most certainly is not evidence Zimmerman's injuries were serious.

The idea that an armed men has reasonable belief to fear an unarmed teenager that the gunman chooses to follow is absurd. That and your justification of this supposed fear does suggest that CCW holders are more fearful and paranoid than the general population, which is likely why they carry guns in the first place.

Many white people always fear black people. Fear alone is not a justification for homicide, or there would be no African Americans left in America. The fear must be reasonable. The idea of paranoid people running around with guns killing people of color because they frighten them is highly problematic, and even more troublesome is that you would justify it.

I'm concerned about how this conversation with both you and Friendly Iconclast is evolving. I know that you this group promotes shall issue concealed carry because you argue it is not subject to the arbitrary decisions that you say characterize may issue. Now I see arguments that those with CCW are justified in killing others. That only points out just how dangerous concealed weapons holders are, and that people here think sticking one's nose where it doesn't belong and then killing someone is acceptable. You and Friendly Iconoclast have just provided clear evidence CCW holders are a danger to the public.