Illinois: Phelps files to override Quinn's amendatory veto of concealed carry bill.

[gejohnston]

63. what?

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You went from WY to Florida just to see that trial? WTF?

I live in both places. It is a comprise I have with the wife. I don't do the "snowbird thing". I like the snow and hate the heat. I'm heading back for the National High School Rodeo Finals in my hometown. Have to hit that. I love self employed telecommuting/retirement. My new goal in life is to be the world's most interesting guy.
I know a retired Marine that has a similar deal with his, they spend five years in the US and five years in Japan.

Everything I recounted has been argued by the state and some of it even by Zimmerman's lawyers. What evidence do you have that Zimmerman's injuries were serious? He didn't even get a CT-scan or MRI, which doctors order for me regularly.

Doesn't matter, the law does not depend on severity of injury. That is the law.

The defense attorney has gotten nearly every witness to say something may have been possible. That doesn't mean it was true, and that most certainly is not evidence Zimmerman's injuries were serious.

So you you are accusing the State's witnesses of a felony? You are accusing Zimmerman's lawyer of suborning perjury. As for the extent of the injury, it is irrelevant.

The idea that an armed men has reasonable belief to fear an unarmed teenager that the gunman chooses to follow is absurd. That and your justification of this supposed fear does suggest that CCW holders are more fearful and paranoid than the general population, which is likely why they carry guns in the first place.

Getting your head pounded in the sidewalk does. Would it matter if Zimmerman had switchblade?

Many white people always fear black people. Fear alone is not a justification for homicide, or there would be no African Americans left in America. The fear must be reasonable. The idea of paranoid people running around with guns killing people of color because they frighten them is highly problematic, and even more troublesome is that you would justify it.

Zimmerman isn't white. He is Hispanic, as the DNA tech testified. Is he afraid of his own grandmother? Was he so afraid of his black college professor that he got straight As and worked to be "one of my best students"?

I'm concerned about how this conversation with both you and Friendly Iconclast is evolving. I know that you this group promotes shall issue concealed carry because you argue it is not subject to the arbitrary decisions that you say characterize may issue. Now I see arguments that those with CCW are justified in killing others. That only points out just how dangerous concealed weapons holders are, and that people here think sticking one's nose where it doesn't belong and then killing someone is acceptable. You and Friendly Iconoclast have just provided clear evidence CCW holders are a danger to the public.

I'm sorry, you are not grasping the issue. Reread everything, including looking up self defense law, and get back with me when you can carry on a serious conversation.