Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

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65. Looks like *someone* is conflating 'number' with 'rate'- and throwing in an associational fallacy...

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:24 AM

Jul 2013

...along with an obvious attempt at guilt-tripping. Unfortunately, you do not get to have your
own facts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117255264

Texas CHL holders 16x less likely to be convicted of crime

The rate of conviction for CHL holders has hit an all-time low- 23 per 100,000, with ~520,000 active CHL holders. The rate among the general public over 21 years old? 362 per 100,000

Conviction Data: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/convrates.htm
Number of Licensees: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/demographics.htm
Population Data: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/CHS/popdat/detailX.shtm

Once again, research is shown to be an effective treatment for factose intolerance...

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Illinois: Phelps files to override Quinn's amendatory veto of concealed carry bill. [View all] ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 OP

This is just too funny. premium Jul 2013 #1

Watch any baseball? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #3

Maybe closer to a suicide squeeze play. nt CokeMachine Jul 2013 #4

Baseball is so much... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #6

Unless your sitting next to a Dodgers fan!! CokeMachine Jul 2013 #8

H88er ileus Jul 2013 #9

We have fune with it. CokeMachine Jul 2013 #18

I have my own team... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #10

The giants gave up a no hitter -- ouch!! CokeMachine Jul 2013 #11

Lisa, Daley and Quinn will split the Cook County and chicago primary vote DonP Jul 2013 #5

Sounds about on the money discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2013 #7

Nice to see a Democrat taking the lead here on behalf of IL citizens' rights. n/t appal_jack Jul 2013 #2

Why is the only right that matters here BainsBane Jul 2013 #12

Why do you only know Jack & Shit? appal_jack Jul 2013 #13

I was not referring to you in particular BainsBane Jul 2013 #14

Who is attempting to take Jenoch Jul 2013 #20

The NRA is actively undermining First Amendment rights BainsBane Jul 2013 #21

There are many affordable areas Jenoch Jul 2013 #23

How about you mind your own business instead of telling other people BainsBane Jul 2013 #25

"Control the criminals with guns" BainsBane Jul 2013 #22

I did not say anything about Jenoch Jul 2013 #24

I worked diligently for Sarah Weddington's election to the Texas House Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #19

I hope they are, Eleanors38! calimary Jul 2013 #26

Thanks for the moral support! Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #27

Absolutely! We need people with your perspective here! calimary Jul 2013 #71

Fellow Dems are not trying to take those rights away from us. hack89 Jul 2013 #15

Well, if we count gun folk as "fellow Dems" BainsBane Jul 2013 #29

There you are with the hyperbole again. hack89 Jul 2013 #31

You ignored my point about the First Amendment BainsBane Jul 2013 #33

Hardly anyone here says that there such be no limits on the 2A hack89 Jul 2013 #35

Unfortunately, not every gunner agrees with you BainsBane Jul 2013 #39

"People here...insist the right to guns trumps every other right." No, they don't. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #36

Pretending guns don't harm is absurd BainsBane Jul 2013 #40

Until some *human* uses one to harm another, guns just sit there doing nothing. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #50

Usually BainsBane Jul 2013 #56

Dangerous humans don't seem to care about gun control laws. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #57

Dangerous humans like George Zimmerman? BainsBane Jul 2013 #64

Looks like *someone* is conflating 'number' with 'rate'- and throwing in an associational fallacy... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #65

And there's that incantation again: "NRA talking point" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #67

Terroist attacks are EXTREMELY rare. Jenoch Jul 2013 #59

It's not the only right that matters ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #16

If you don't like what we talk about, premium Jul 2013 #17

Just pointing out yet another contradiction BainsBane Jul 2013 #30

That's incorrect ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #34

Evidently free speech is not among those rights gunners care about BainsBane Jul 2013 #37

Gee, I guess you didn't read the post that you are replying to. ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #38

I read it BainsBane Jul 2013 #42

OK ExCop-LawStudent Jul 2013 #43

CCW holders who kill like Zimmerman gejohnston Jul 2013 #41

Do you have a point? BainsBane Jul 2013 #44

Actually I did. gejohnston Jul 2013 #45

That ME's testimony today was a clusterfuck for the prosecution, premium Jul 2013 #46

the jury can vote on manslaughter gejohnston Jul 2013 #48

I'll go with that, premium Jul 2013 #49

The State brought it only because of political pressure gejohnston Jul 2013 #52

I've said all along that the state caved to public and political pressure. nt. premium Jul 2013 #54

what I find interesting gejohnston Jul 2013 #72

As a friend says... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #70

Expecting me to read two articles is to discern your point BainsBane Jul 2013 #47

two things gejohnston Jul 2013 #51

okay BainsBane Jul 2013 #58

strange, gejohnston Jul 2013 #60

I cited that article only for evidence that the Civil Rights Office BainsBane Jul 2013 #62

what? gejohnston Jul 2013 #63

One by one BainsBane Jul 2013 #68

To put it very simple gejohnston Jul 2013 #69

"There are over 506 documented cases of CCW holders killing someone" Which proves they're... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #53

Is that what that tells you? BainsBane Jul 2013 #61

Frankly, you're safer around CCW holders than non-CCW holders friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #66

I don't care about constitutional rights? premium Jul 2013 #55

Please be advised that this group IS "Gun Control & RKBA". GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #28

Quinn is really cutting off his own nose over this. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #32