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In reply to the discussion: Illinois: Phelps files to override Quinn's amendatory veto of concealed carry bill. [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)66. Frankly, you're safer around CCW holders than non-CCW holders
(As an aside, I'll thank you to stop putting words in my mouth:
You apparently think carrying a gun gives someone the right to kill
I hate to break the news to you, but as a point of fact most adults are physically
(if not mentally) able to kill someone. Personally, I see no moral imperative to engage in
hand-to-hand combat with someone that means to do me harm.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=45338
Texas CHL holders 16x less likely to be convicted of crime

The rate of conviction for CHL holders has hit an all-time low- 23 per 100,000, with ~520,000 active CHL holders. The rate among the general public over 21 years old? 362 per 100,000
Conviction Data: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/convrates.htm
Number of Licensees: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/demographics.htm
Population Data: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/CHS/popdat/detailX.shtm

The rate of conviction for CHL holders has hit an all-time low- 23 per 100,000, with ~520,000 active CHL holders. The rate among the general public over 21 years old? 362 per 100,000
Conviction Data: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/convrates.htm
Number of Licensees: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/reports/demographics.htm
Population Data: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/CHS/popdat/detailX.shtm
You have every right to feel as you do. You do not have the right to your own facts, nor
do you have the right to falsely accuse other DUers of condoning murder.
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Illinois: Phelps files to override Quinn's amendatory veto of concealed carry bill. [View all]
ExCop-LawStudent
Jul 2013
OP
Nice to see a Democrat taking the lead here on behalf of IL citizens' rights. n/t
appal_jack
Jul 2013
#2
"People here...insist the right to guns trumps every other right." No, they don't.
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2013
#36
Until some *human* uses one to harm another, guns just sit there doing nothing.
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2013
#50
Looks like *someone* is conflating 'number' with 'rate'- and throwing in an associational fallacy...
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2013
#65
"There are over 506 documented cases of CCW holders killing someone" Which proves they're...
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2013
#53