Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: The meaning of the Second Amendment (One Perspective) [View all]jimmy the one
(2,714 posts)hans: You now accept that the PA constitutional right to bear arms in defence of themselves indeed recognizes the higher 'natural law' pertaining to self defense.
Why then do you continue to insist that 2A does not?
Hans first, HIS view: pennsy's rkba (circa 1776): "That the right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state shall not be questioned."
MY view: VIRGINIA rkba (June1776) That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state;
Does virginia's or pennsylvania's sound closer to the wording & intent of the 2ndAmendment?: A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep & bear arms shall not be infringed?
Jimmy rubs it in:
DELAWARE(Sept1776) That a well-regulated militia is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free govt.
MARYLAND (Nov1776) That a well-regulated militia is the proper and natural defence of a free govt
MASSACHUSETTS (Oct1780) The people have a right to keep and bear arms for the common defence.
NEWHAMPSHIRE (June1784) A well regulated militia is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a state.
NEWYORK CONVENTION(July1788) That the people have the right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, including the body of the people capable of bearing arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state.
RHODEISLAND RATIFICATION CONVENTION(May1790) That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, including the body of the people capable of bearing arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state. http://www.madisonbrigade.com/library_bor_2nd_amendment.htm