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In reply to the discussion: I find it hard to believe the the 2nd Amendment is exclusively for national defense [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)26. .
What with such little recoil & bumpfire capability, an ar15 bushmaster can fire over 100 rds per minute, not near automatic fire of ~600/min of an m16, but limited more by the magazine size. You generally cannot do that with larger caliber semi-auto rifles.
So what? What does that have to do with the fact that the people are the first, best keepers of their personal freedoms and the entirety of the BoR is designed to that end?
while heller 2008 was a political decision, pandering to a rightwing republican base & an assiduous & insidious gun lobby.
If everyone were allowed to disregard whatever USSC decision they did not approve of based on their personal, unilateral declarations there would be no system of resolving political debates. What 5-4 USSC decisions favoring liberal policies will conservatives be allowed to disregard since they were obviously politically motivated?
the tench coxe citation in 1788 wouldn't show that the 2ndA has fallen into oblivion today. See if you can figure out why, with the clues I've given.
I don't play silly games. State your argument outright.
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I find it hard to believe the the 2nd Amendment is exclusively for national defense [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
OP
Our right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness depends on protecting ourselves.
ileus
Jul 2013
#1
It also secures "the right of the people" in the same context as every other usage of the term.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#3
I think it is pretty clear that the 2nd Amendment was aimed at individual rights.
McPops
Jul 2013
#5
Agreed. In fact, it's not possible to parse the language any other way...
Lizzie Poppet
Jul 2013
#12
The 2nd didn't put exclusive power in the hands of the govt (never actually heard anyone say this).
jmg257
Jul 2013
#18
Of course you didn't know... that Sam Adams was not among the minority of Pennsylvania?
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#34
Jimmy dear... it may take you a little longer than the other boys and girls to catch on
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#43
Tee Hee... I see where you went off track, it could have happened to anyone!
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#44
Holy crap, you actually used the reply button correctly for once! good job!
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#38
Semi-auto long rifles are not "military style assault weapons" except in appearance
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#23