The meaning of the Second Amendment (One Perspective)

[jimmy the one]

161. gun guru & guncite back me up

hans: Except what you call Sam Adams first draft of the 2nd amendment is in fact a proposal from the state ratifying convention

Right, sam adams/massachusetts ratifying the US Constitution, & proposing a US bill of rights, the deception only comes from hans; From one who admonishes others for not reading his posts, hans apparently is guilty of the same sin in not reading his adversaries.

gun guru halbrook: Feb06,1788 Samuel Adams' Proposal at the Massachusetts Convention.. The demand for a bill of rights reached a high pitch in Massachusetts before the ink on the proposed {US} Constitution had time to dry. In the Massa. ratifying convention, Feb6,1788 .. Samuel Adams introduced the following amendments: "And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; http://constitution.org/2ll/schol/jfp6ch04.htm

hans: ..you offer no evidence whatever that Coxe was responding specifically and exclusively to Adams' right to arms proposal.

Getting desperate are we hans? Coxe remarks came 14 days after Sam Adam's first draft proposal of 2ndA, where else did Coxe get his view that the federal congress could not infringe on militia?
And again, you should practice what you preach & read so as not to footstick, for gun guru halbrook backs me up & disputes YOU:
The federalist majority in the convention prevented passage of Adams' proposals. An antifederalist explained: "It was his misfortune to have been misconceived, and the {2ndA} proposition was accordingly withdrawn.".. The Massachusetts convention ratified the {US} constitution on Feb 7, 1788 without demanding a declaration of rights. Nonetheless, other than the standing army provision, Adams' proposal would be seen as embodying 1st, 2nd, 4th Amendments.. when being considered by Congress in 1789. http://constitution.org/2ll/schol/jfp6ch04.htm

hans: When Coxe actually does comment directly regarding the first draft of 2A in the first US Congress, you act as though you cannot comprehend that " their right to keep and bear their private arms" is not limited to service in the state militia.

The constitutional right to bear private arms was indeed intended primarily for militia service, common defense - an individual right to bear arms in a well regulated militia, tho there was adjunctly no prohibition on home self defense, duh. Since only about one in four american males had a private firearm to begin with circa 1790, your contention moreso demonstrates that the govt wished for militia aged males to provide their own firearms, if they could. About half the militia's firearms were in state or fed armories.