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Gun Control & RKBA

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DanTex

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Sat Feb 4, 2012, 10:23 AM Feb 2012

Special Report: Bloomberg reloads in push for gun control [View all]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/04/us-usa-bloomberg-guns-idUSTRE8130BJ20120204

(Reuters) - Among the slick, million-dollar ads for the likes of Pepsi and Honda during the Super Bowl this Sunday, viewers in New York and Boston will see a far more modest spot. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino will be sitting on a couch touting an issue most politicians avoid like the plague: gun control.

The two mayors, whose local teams face off in the big game, are making the pitch for Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), the organization they co-founded in 2006.

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"We have to face the fact that both Democrats and Republicans have for a while viewed this as the third rail of American politics," said John Feinblatt, who helps run MAIG as Bloomberg's chief advisor for policy and strategic planning. (Bloomberg is an independent; Menino is a Democrat.)

Democrats, who are more likely than Republicans to favor some restrictions on gun ownership, made a conscious decision to stay away from the gun issue in the 2010 midterm congressional elections. The aim: protect the so-called Blue Dog conservative Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives, who didn't toe the party line on gun control. Most were defeated anyway.

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Given the strength of gun lobby, I can understand why some Dems have shied away from the issue. However, not just on guns, but on all issues where Dems have given ground in order to placate the crazies, it hasn't helped. We end up with less progressive policies, and then the right-wingers still vote Republican.

The vast majority of NRA types and "gun rights" extremists are going to vote Republican, regardless of how much ground Dems cede on gun control. In the same way that anti-abortion fanatics are going to vote Republican even if Dems give in on a women's right to choose. And "Club for Growth" libertarian types aren't going to start voting for Dems just because we abandon the fight against global warming.

Due to the strength of right-wing special interests, gun control is an uphill fight at this moment in this country, but I don't see any reason in principle why we should be able to get our rates of gun violence in line with places like Canada or the UK.
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"...on all issues where Dems have given ground in order to placate the crazies, it hasn't helped." PavePusher Feb 2012 #1
Harder, better..... Callisto32 Feb 2012 #2
Oh gawd..... PavePusher Feb 2012 #3
Daft Punk. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #5
By "hasn't helped", I mean it hasn't helped politically. DanTex Feb 2012 #4
I don't remember where, but doesn't data indicate... Callisto32 Feb 2012 #6
No DanTex Feb 2012 #7
Fair enough. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #8
but, I thought that I had recently seen, a graph on here that showed Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #9
That is what I was referring to when I said. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #11
the search fucntion on DU3 leaves a lot to be desired -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #12
Here is the Gallup data: SteveW Feb 2012 #36
Even if it is down substantially..... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #32
Ve-e-e-lly interesting. And true. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #37
The major flaw in your argument ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #10
yes, that sentence went down hard with me as well. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #13
That's pretty much it one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #14
those two women can kiss my ass. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #16
I don't equate gun ownership with gun extremism. DanTex Feb 2012 #18
Perhaps you were unaware ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #19
What indicates unconcern for freedom is trying to pretend that "gun rights".. DanTex Feb 2012 #20
Well Said fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #22
Oh, you are very, very wrong. Straw Man Feb 2012 #23
I am very, very right! DanTex Feb 2012 #26
No. Straw Man Feb 2012 #28
Keep insisting, maybe someday that'll make it true. TheWraith Feb 2012 #34
Educate yourself... DanTex Feb 2012 #40
The intent, as expressed by the framers themselves... beevul Feb 2012 #41
excellent post. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #42
Perhaps you could do the same. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #43
I disagree. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #35
broke it down, point by point. thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #44
NICS was the NRA's idea gejohnston Feb 2012 #21
You are ignorant regarding private sales. Lurks Often Feb 2012 #27
In the Guns Group, I think, allows condemnation of gun-owning Democrats. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #38
more than just "moderate" dems, every questionairre I have taken Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #45
It brings me delight to watch him waste millions on his failed group and message. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #15
Of coarse..a dupe OP.. pipoman Feb 2012 #17
Agreed. ellisonz Feb 2012 #24
when a grin is all you have.... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #46
I thought all bears were friendly! ellisonz Feb 2012 #48
ah, Boo Boo! Got a picnic basket? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #49
You don't have to outrun the bear.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #50
yeah, pretty much Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #51
gun control is a regressive policy.... ileus Feb 2012 #25
As long as Bloomie keeps shooting blanks, he can "reload" as much as he can afford. oneshooter Feb 2012 #29
I'm still waiting gejohnston Feb 2012 #30
I must have missed this propaganda. Did it air? aikoaiko Feb 2012 #31
Didn't see it either. Perhaps it was the studied subtlety amid the polar bears. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #39
I don't think that is true. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #33
"viewers in New York and Boston"- this was just political campaigning. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #47
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