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baldguy

(36,649 posts)
18. You're being facetious. Or should I say "childish"?
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:20 AM
Feb 2012

You know as well as I do those things are decided by economics, not the govt.

I'd love to have my kids go to the best schools in the world & have a job that pays a great deal, and that's easy & fascinating & fulfilling all at once. I'd love own a big house that's maintenance free & doesn't cost anything to run. I'd love to have a big, fast & stylish car.

But, of course I don't have the money for those things. (And simple physics prevents others from being available.)

But what I can have is pretty good public schools for my kids - if my community values education & is willing to pay for it as a community. I can have a car that's safe & fuel efficient because the govt forced the manufacturers to make them so. I can work in a safe place because OSHA has regulations which require it to be safe. And I my job has a decent wage, with medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation in exchange for my labor because the govt forced employers to bargain with the union my grandfathers & fathers were able to join. This wage allows me to own a house that's big enough for me & my family, in a neighborhood that's safe because of the police & fire depts, which are funded by the taxes I pay. The food I eat is safe to eat & my high blood pressure medication won't kill me because the FDA has enacted regulations to ensure that they are safe.

Libertarians have opposed everyone of these benefits provided by the govt. And most of them blithely unaware of why they exist and how they benefit from them. Libertarians use every one of them & more, all the while saying: "We don’t need those big govt liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.

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"Libertarianism" is a synonym for childish stupidity. baldguy Feb 2012 #1
My mistake. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #7
Interesting mvccd1000 Feb 2012 #8
Right. "Every man for himself", "Screw the other guy" & "Mine, all mine!. Me! Me! Me!" baldguy Feb 2012 #10
As long as we're completely misrepresenting each others' positions... mvccd1000 Feb 2012 #12
You're being facetious. Or should I say "childish"? baldguy Feb 2012 #18
+100 BiggJawn Feb 2012 #39
Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican krispos42 Feb 2012 #44
Libertarians are just Republicans who want to smoke pot. baldguy Feb 2012 #47
Rampant mischaracterization. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #14
If we're going for any semblance of accuracy here, Dagny Taggard DOES cook and clean AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #56
The classic quote about Atlas Shrugged: DanTex Feb 2012 #13
One can be a libertarian without worshipping or even being able to stand Rand. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #15
Libertarians are assholes - Ron Paul being the prime example jpak Feb 2012 #20
Are you always this abusive to people you don't know. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #24
Yes he is, juvenile name calling is all he's got rl6214 Feb 2012 #27
many people on DU call republicans assholes, too. provis99 Feb 2012 #54
Ron Paul's a libertarian. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #30
oh, snap! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #45
I've read and been told that there's a difference, but never bothered to figure out what it was. DanTex Feb 2012 #28
What do you believe to be the foundational philosophy of libertarianism? Callisto32 Feb 2012 #29
It's not the principles, it's the way that they are applied that I object to. DanTex Feb 2012 #32
I agree with you to a point gejohnston Feb 2012 #41
Wow! We agree on something! DanTex Feb 2012 #42
the gun industry is not protected against civil law suits gejohnston Feb 2012 #43
Hmm. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #17
Crying because your prejudices aren't supported by the majority of DU? baldguy Feb 2012 #19
No. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #25
OH! Those poor, helpless Libertarians! (Not to mention anonymous & hypothetical, too!) baldguy Feb 2012 #33
Oh, it absolutely did. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #48
To paraphrase Harry Truman: baldguy Feb 2012 #49
Harry S. Truman gejohnston Feb 2012 #50
He was also a member of the KKK. baldguy Feb 2012 #51
This is interesting: baldguy Feb 2012 #52
I was never offended by it gejohnston Feb 2012 #53
Oh Yeah: since you probably lack the gene to understand it - baldguy Feb 2012 #34
Callisto32, Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #46
At least BaldGuy attempted to start a conversation. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #2
herewith is jpak's attempt at starting a conversation -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #4
Like when he called me an asshole? Callisto32 Feb 2012 #26
yeah, like that -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #31
How many shot and dead so far? DonP Feb 2012 #3
Obama "I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun jody Feb 2012 #5
Mark Pahrump off my list of places to retire... BiggJawn Feb 2012 #6
But isn't Pahrump where they have all the bordellos? rl6214 Feb 2012 #9
Well, they said he knows what all his neighbours are doing... BiggJawn Feb 2012 #11
What, exactly, do you believe libertarianism to be? Callisto32 Feb 2012 #16
What do I believe Libertarianism to be? BiggJawn Feb 2012 #37
Libertarian societies possible? gejohnston Feb 2012 #40
It's sad to see all the hatred for Librarians in this thread slackmaster Feb 2012 #21
But, but ... they're evil Librarians with guns DonP Feb 2012 #22
Indeed. Angus86 Feb 2012 #35
He loves posting stories where nothing happened. Part of his ritual google dump. DonP Feb 2012 #36
Betcha those books get returned on time...n/t BiggJawn Feb 2012 #38
LOL! jpak Feb 2012 #23
New York times whines about Nevada firearm laws. ileus Feb 2012 #55
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