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Gun Control & RKBA

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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:28 PM Oct 2013

Bill of Rights basics [View all]

From the Preamble to Bill of Rights:

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.


This establishes the Bill of Rights as informative in naming rights possessed by the people. These rights are fundamentally protected from interference by government. Key among these is the Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


The 'due process' requirement describes the relationship between between personal human rights and government including the Second Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


The 2A names a right of the people. Like the other rights named in the BoR, the RKBA is a right of the people.
"My father sent my mother a revolver as a gift, which for her was the symbol of what any young girl wants in a marriage, this was for her the means to stay alive, to kill herself or to die fighting." - Assaela Bielski
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Bill of Rights basics [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 OP
Of course it is. NOW explain what "to keep and bear arms" means, and re: the amendment's jmg257 Oct 2013 #1
Bollocks. beevul Oct 2013 #3
You yourself backed my point... jmg257 Oct 2013 #4
A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle not a square. beevul Oct 2013 #5
And a circle is a shape, which is why my fat friend is in shape. jmg257 Oct 2013 #7
Their view was that a standing army isn't needed gejohnston Oct 2013 #8
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #6
The whole point of the 2nd was to make sure there were well-regulated well armed jmg257 Oct 2013 #9
I guess we'll have to agree... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #11
No worries...always interesting to discuss! Nt jmg257 Oct 2013 #12
Have a nice evening. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #13
If I might respond after further reflection... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #18
Agree. The Constitution ensures the militias... jmg257 Oct 2013 #24
Agree and disagree discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #27
What possible relevance to your assertion does COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #2
The right... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #10
I fail to see how giving a loved one a pistol COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #14
Freedom is the exercise of choice discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #15
Once again, no response to the COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #16
The question you raised: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #17
Well, when the Nazi invasion hits the U.S. I'm glad COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #21
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #22
more word salad... COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #23
You want to arm people AFTER an invasion? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #30
Perhaps, in this case... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2013 #31
pizza amendment jimmy the one Oct 2013 #19
conclusion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #20
Apparently we don't have a right to pizza we have a duty to pizza Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #25
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #26
unicorns are a myth jimmy the one Oct 2013 #28
If you insist on this silliness, fine, I'll play. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #29
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