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In reply to the discussion: Bill of Rights basics [View all]

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,785 posts)
27. Agree and disagree
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:43 AM
Oct 2013

A great deal has been said about the Founders and their disdain for standing armies. A standing army was obviously provided for in the Constitution. It was left to the individual States to organize and officer their own Militias. As you have highlighted there was popular resistance to federal arming/disarming of the Militias. After the NG was formed subsequent legislation provided that enrollment in each State's NG was also simultaneous enrollment in the NG of the United States.

During the 19th century the several States grew closer due to advances in travel and communications. As economic cooperation began to demonstrate, specialization made sense and certain sacrifices would improve the overall condition of the general welfare of the People. This was true of military/Militia as well.

During the early 20th century, due to the numerous wars and the increasing acceptance of US involvement in foreign affairs, the People accepted the idea of a large standing federal force. These evolutions from State Militias to a standing federal army demonstrate an acceptance by the American People of this country's world involvement and their trust of the federal government.

Whatever the structure of the main federal force, its composition, membership and officers are drawn from the civilian People of the several States. It can't be argued that such a force intrinsically benefits by restricting arms from non-members.

The 2A is part of the BoR. The BoR exists to protect individual rights from government abuse. This is evident by the nature of the other articles protecting such personal rights as free speech and privacy. Whatever other consequences devolve from the 2A, it acts as a protection for personal rights. It may have helped secure the ability of the People to participate in a militia. It may have enabled hunters to hunt. The essential nature of a right is as an attribute of a person. The nature of people doesn't change due to the evolution of their government. It is stated in the Declaration that "--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it". The evolution and continued development of our government is a basic strength. Providing for government to adapt to and better serve the People is a strength. The People will always have an individual RKBA.

Most basically the People have a right to life and have a right to protect themselves.
Have a great day.

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Bill of Rights basics [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 OP
Of course it is. NOW explain what "to keep and bear arms" means, and re: the amendment's jmg257 Oct 2013 #1
Bollocks. beevul Oct 2013 #3
You yourself backed my point... jmg257 Oct 2013 #4
A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle not a square. beevul Oct 2013 #5
And a circle is a shape, which is why my fat friend is in shape. jmg257 Oct 2013 #7
Their view was that a standing army isn't needed gejohnston Oct 2013 #8
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #6
The whole point of the 2nd was to make sure there were well-regulated well armed jmg257 Oct 2013 #9
I guess we'll have to agree... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #11
No worries...always interesting to discuss! Nt jmg257 Oct 2013 #12
Have a nice evening. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #13
If I might respond after further reflection... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #18
Agree. The Constitution ensures the militias... jmg257 Oct 2013 #24
Agree and disagree discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #27
What possible relevance to your assertion does COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #2
The right... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #10
I fail to see how giving a loved one a pistol COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #14
Freedom is the exercise of choice discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #15
Once again, no response to the COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #16
The question you raised: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #17
Well, when the Nazi invasion hits the U.S. I'm glad COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #21
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #22
more word salad... COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #23
You want to arm people AFTER an invasion? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #30
Perhaps, in this case... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2013 #31
pizza amendment jimmy the one Oct 2013 #19
conclusion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #20
Apparently we don't have a right to pizza we have a duty to pizza Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #25
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #26
unicorns are a myth jimmy the one Oct 2013 #28
If you insist on this silliness, fine, I'll play. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #29
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