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In reply to the discussion: Bill of Rights basics [View all]

jimmy the one

(2,846 posts)
28. unicorns are a myth
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 12:50 PM
Oct 2013

nuclear unicorn: Apparently we don't have a right to pizza we have a duty to pizza... So everyone should be required to own an AR-15. That was my take-away, at least.

I agree beevul came up with a ridiculous comparative 'amendment' with the pizza thing, surprised you're taking it seriously, for it's a ridiculous & stupid assumption you make that I was equating the frivolous pizza amendment with the bill of rights 2nd amendment - an official document not the quirky imaginings of some pro gun enthusiast.

what beevul wrote: A well regulated sauce, being necessary to the security of a proper pizza, the right of the people to keep and bear ingredients, shall not be infringed.

Again, beevul's pizza amendment bears out the militia interpretation, since ingredients are protected only (or primarily) for making pizza sauce, not for other purposes - within reason.
.. Myths come to mind - a unicorn is a myth dontcha know? ergo a nuclear unicorn would be a bigger myth reeeally stretching the imagination. And the 2ndA individual rkba is one of the biggest myths of all.

beevul non sequitur: Nobody thinks the primary purpose of amendment 2 is "securing the existence of well-regulated State Militias", other than a tiny handful of "collective rights interpretation" folks.

More from the 2nd amendment mythology; I wouldn't contend that approx 60 million americans who adhere to the militia or militia centric interpretation of 2ndA, a 'tiny handful', would anybody? It's the minority view for sure, because the 2ndA generally isn't well understood, & the gun lobby has done wonders (albeit malicious ones) by twisting about the true meaning of the 'zwitter verfassung-zusatz' (2nd amendment in german, literally 2nd constitution addition).

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Bill of Rights basics [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 OP
Of course it is. NOW explain what "to keep and bear arms" means, and re: the amendment's jmg257 Oct 2013 #1
Bollocks. beevul Oct 2013 #3
You yourself backed my point... jmg257 Oct 2013 #4
A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle not a square. beevul Oct 2013 #5
And a circle is a shape, which is why my fat friend is in shape. jmg257 Oct 2013 #7
Their view was that a standing army isn't needed gejohnston Oct 2013 #8
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #6
The whole point of the 2nd was to make sure there were well-regulated well armed jmg257 Oct 2013 #9
I guess we'll have to agree... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #11
No worries...always interesting to discuss! Nt jmg257 Oct 2013 #12
Have a nice evening. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #13
If I might respond after further reflection... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #18
Agree. The Constitution ensures the militias... jmg257 Oct 2013 #24
Agree and disagree discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #27
What possible relevance to your assertion does COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #2
The right... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #10
I fail to see how giving a loved one a pistol COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #14
Freedom is the exercise of choice discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #15
Once again, no response to the COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #16
The question you raised: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #17
Well, when the Nazi invasion hits the U.S. I'm glad COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #21
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #22
more word salad... COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #23
You want to arm people AFTER an invasion? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #30
Perhaps, in this case... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2013 #31
pizza amendment jimmy the one Oct 2013 #19
conclusion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #20
Apparently we don't have a right to pizza we have a duty to pizza Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #25
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #26
unicorns are a myth jimmy the one Oct 2013 #28
If you insist on this silliness, fine, I'll play. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #29
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