Gun Control & RKBA

SteveW

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65. Best thing for the Democratic Party: Anti-gun bills not reaching the floor...

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:00 PM

Feb 2012

Otherwise, good Democrats would have to spend so much time dealing with a NO-WIN issue and lessening their chance for holding office. (I believe it was Newtty G, back in the 90s, who allowed the great and grand "assault weapons ban" to actually get to the floor -- just so the Dems could wallow in quicksand to the benefit of the Republicans.)

Might want to take a lesson from that.

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Did Democrats Give Up in Gun Control Debate? [View all] LAGC Feb 2012 OP

Like an abused spouse randr Feb 2012 #1

Except that on this subject, any "abuse" was self-administered. PavePusher Feb 2012 #3

HA! Auto-induced ass-kicking? The vision! nt SteveW Feb 2012 #64

trust me, if anyone has been abused on this issue Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #14

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #28

A lot of rrneck Feb 2012 #31

well said. and thank you Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #35

Can I get an AMEN?!?! Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #72

and the run on fire arms Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #76

Obama got slapped off his anti-gun position and was forced to pledge "I will not take your shotgun jody Feb 2012 #2

for millions of people the 2nd isn't some scrap right that needs destroyed... ileus Feb 2012 #4

No. They're just biding their time... ellisonz Feb 2012 #5

I guess I'm still trying to figure out why nothing happened in 2009-2010. LAGC Feb 2012 #6

Takes 60 votes in the Senate... ellisonz Feb 2012 #7

Actually gejohnston Feb 2012 #8

And your point is? ellisonz Feb 2012 #9

no gejohnston Feb 2012 #10

And apparently John Dingell is a "Blue Dog" now. TheWraith Feb 2012 #62

no...bluedogs know their voters. ileus Feb 2012 #11

So they're pandering? ellisonz Feb 2012 #12

Don't worry. virginia mountainman Feb 2012 #13

No they're doing the will of the people. ileus Feb 2012 #15

I happen to elect my officials... ellisonz Feb 2012 #16

the whole constitution, right? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #17

Correct. ellisonz Feb 2012 #19

so, then we must further refine and define that phrase in order for you to understand that legal Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #20

I read the Second Amendment as it is written... ellisonz Feb 2012 #21

You are reading it wrong. It has THREE commas. lastlib Feb 2012 #23

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #24

Post #23 would be hilarious if ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #38

Where did you learn English? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #57

Are militia members people? nt rrneck Feb 2012 #26

please see the reply to me upthread ... post#22 Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #29

How the hell rrneck Feb 2012 #33

Ho brah... ellisonz Feb 2012 #34

Whats your point? rrneck Feb 2012 #37

What's your point? ellisonz Feb 2012 #39

Check the DU handle. rrneck Feb 2012 #40

What would be an example of a NON-semi-automatic handgun? Have you ever actually held a Skwid Feb 2012 #70

I really don't know and Yes, they need a good strong dose of reality. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #36

no they're evil gunner baser toters types....they don't count. ileus Feb 2012 #30

Double strappers, the lot of 'em. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #32

don't forget the rest of the sentence .... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #27

How exactly do you think the 9th supports your case that the 2nd can be tightly restricted? petronius Feb 2012 #42

Sure. ellisonz Feb 2012 #43

It doesn't work that way: an unenumerated right (which is what the 9th protects) petronius Feb 2012 #44

Our interpretations of the Second Amendment are different. ellisonz Feb 2012 #46

it would be, but who would sue? gejohnston Feb 2012 #47

Total elimination of regulation... ellisonz Feb 2012 #48

I would not to be that lawyer gejohnston Feb 2012 #49

Nope - that wouldn't work. liberal_biker Feb 2012 #61

From what enumerated right do you think that this "right to public safety" is emanating? petronius Feb 2012 #51

I'm not arguing "against" an enumerated right. ellisonz Feb 2012 #52

Then why on earth did the SC not expressly proclaim a "right to public safety"? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #53

Doesn't that quote you chose from Stevens actually *agree* that it's an individual right, petronius Feb 2012 #63

Let's look at that prefatory clause, shall we? Straw Man Feb 2012 #71

Let's look at that prefatory clause, shall we? 2nd Amendment Rfarmer Sep 2013 #73

Let's look at it again, shall we? Straw Man Sep 2013 #74

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #75

What you say... Clames Feb 2012 #45

Excuse me? liberal_biker Feb 2012 #59

some would say the 2A is within the US Constitution. ileus Feb 2012 #18

Let me make sure I understand this.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #56

good. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #58

Best thing for the Democratic Party: Anti-gun bills not reaching the floor... SteveW Feb 2012 #65

Did the Dems give up on gun control? YES! nt aaaaaa5a Feb 2012 #25

It is still a plank in the platform. oneshooter Feb 2012 #41

A thin... Clames Feb 2012 #50

Those loose screws sure squeak a LOT, here. NT one-eyed fat man Feb 2012 #54

it is only -here- though, right? I think this DU group gives a skewed slant Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #68

I certainly hope the Democratic Party HAS given up on further gun control. Laelth Feb 2012 #55

Your position is reasonable... SteveW Feb 2012 #66

This is precisely why I am a member of the NRA Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #60

You bring up a good point about the "base" of the NRA... SteveW Feb 2012 #67

interesting points Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #69