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In reply to the discussion: When 7 rounds just isn't enough. [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)54. You need to be better informed about buffalo hunting:
Native Americans hunted via buffalo jumps and buffalo pounds before the Spanish introduced horses to North America:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_pound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_jump
In one of his journals, Meriwether Lewis describes how a buffalo jump was practiced during the Lewis and Clark Expedition:
"one of the most active and fleet young men is selected and disguised in a robe of buffalo skin... he places himself at a distance between a herd of buffalo and a precipice proper for the purpose; the other Indians now surround the herd on the back and flanks and at a signal agreed on all show themselves at the same time moving forward towards the buffalo; the disguised Indian or decoy has taken care to place himself sufficiently near the buffalo to be noticed by them when they take to flight and running before them they follow him in full speed to the precipice; the Indian (decoy) in the mean time has taken care to secure himself in some cranny in the cliff... the part of the decoy I am informed is extremely dangerous.
"one of the most active and fleet young men is selected and disguised in a robe of buffalo skin... he places himself at a distance between a herd of buffalo and a precipice proper for the purpose; the other Indians now surround the herd on the back and flanks and at a signal agreed on all show themselves at the same time moving forward towards the buffalo; the disguised Indian or decoy has taken care to place himself sufficiently near the buffalo to be noticed by them when they take to flight and running before them they follow him in full speed to the precipice; the Indian (decoy) in the mean time has taken care to secure himself in some cranny in the cliff... the part of the decoy I am informed is extremely dangerous.
They used horses from the 15th C. onwards, but the white buffalo hunters preferred stand hunting:
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dxb01
On a normal day's run, the hunters would locate the herd, single out a small group, and approach as near as possible from downwind. Once close to the group, the hunters formed a "stand" if possible, so that the buffalo were shot in such a way that the rest were not frightened away. The hunter shot at a slow rate so that his gunbarrel did not overheat and expand; he shot at the outside buffalo only, or at any that started to walk off; and he would try to drop each one with one good shot, as a wounded buffalo would soon cause the whole group to bolt. Finally, the group would break, and the surviving animals would wander off, the hunter following and shooting stragglers. When it was impossible to form a stand, the hunt progressed on a trail-and-shoot form, the hunter following a wandering band of buffalo, shooting at intervals as the opportunity presented itself. This method was feasible because the buffalo was a notoriously stupid animal that evidently recognized danger only when he could smell it. He also nearly invariably traveled into the wind so that a hunter could follow with little possibility of detection. These two techniques of hunting were the most desirable and common.
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NYPD averages 1 hit for every 4 rounds expended. He hit with 10 out of 13.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#17
I agree, in addition to a bunch of white guys who enjoy killing animals with guns.
Starboard Tack
Nov 2013
#27
So what do you suggest for the rare occasion where a gun IS necessary for self-defense?
Bazinga
Dec 2013
#70
I would say the more guns you put on the street, the more likely you will be shot.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2013
#71
Your buddy Zimmerman was in the wrong place at the wrong time with a gun
Starboard Tack
Dec 2013
#84
The words I quoted from you are in disagrement with the post to which am now replying.
Jenoch
Dec 2013
#91
And they used the best tools for the job. I guess it was all about self defense and SYG
Starboard Tack
Dec 2013
#51
The robber shot the store owner first. If I had to shoot a man who shot me first, I'd keep shooting
Shrike47
Nov 2013
#4
I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was that's all the ammunition they had.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Nov 2013
#15
On thought, I'm actually serious. LEO or civvie, if you carry you must be that skilled.
sir pball
Nov 2013
#34
For a department with 100 officers, you'd be looking at half a million dollars just for ammo to
Skeeter Barnes
Nov 2013
#43
And depending on what state you live in, your advice might just get a person charged with murder.
Lurks Often
Nov 2013
#44