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In reply to the discussion: When 7 rounds just isn't enough. [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)90. Al Sharpton was the leading propagandists
That isn't a red herring, that is Sharpton's track record.
As the Talk Left, hardly a right wing source, put it best.
The legacy of this case will be that the media never gets it right, and worse, that a group of lawyers, with the aid of a public relations team, who had a financial stake in the outcome of pending and anticipated civil litigation, were allowed to commandeer control of Florida's criminal justice system, in pursuit of a divisive, personal agenda.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/14/145748/759/Colo_News/The-Legacy-of-the-George-Zimmerman-Trial
the left knocks the media quite often too, as it should call out the corporate media when it gets things wrong. Truth has no politics, nor should it. It is what it simply is. I look at the evidence provided in court, and not as ideological sources like Talk Left.
The guy stuck a fucking shotgun in his girlfriend's face. I guess she asked for that and he was just defending himself. Oh, right, she said she didn't want to press charges, so he must be a victim. Well, it looks like he's leaving the fine State of Florida for greener pastures. Unfortunately, he will probably be armed and not required to register with local LE as a fucking sociopath.
If you listen to the 911 call, she also said he unloaded it an put it in a case. She is also yelling out of anger, not fear. He is heard in the background calmly telling her to chill out. Before this happened, she was shopping for media outlets to buy her story. Needless to say, those charges are dropped, and the DA wouldn't have a case anyway.
Thom Hartman once said that the "undecided" voters who decide at the last minute are "low information" voters. I disagree with him. I would like to think that those are the ones who are doing their own research to make an informed decision. The low information voters, really sheeple, are among the base of each party. They blindly buy whatever nonsense their favorite pundits or ideology, which is where the term "ditto head" comes from, to describe those sheeple on the right. They exist on the left as well. I have equal respect for both varieties. People don't listen to Rush (not the band) and Hartman not for information, but to confirm their own biases. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias#Persistence_of_discredited_beliefs
While both sides will claim that gun sales/gun ownership has something to do with the dropping violent crime, I think it has more to do with corporal punishment being less socially acceptable, and an aging population.
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NYPD averages 1 hit for every 4 rounds expended. He hit with 10 out of 13.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#17
I agree, in addition to a bunch of white guys who enjoy killing animals with guns.
Starboard Tack
Nov 2013
#27
So what do you suggest for the rare occasion where a gun IS necessary for self-defense?
Bazinga
Dec 2013
#70
I would say the more guns you put on the street, the more likely you will be shot.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2013
#71
Your buddy Zimmerman was in the wrong place at the wrong time with a gun
Starboard Tack
Dec 2013
#84
The words I quoted from you are in disagrement with the post to which am now replying.
Jenoch
Dec 2013
#91
And they used the best tools for the job. I guess it was all about self defense and SYG
Starboard Tack
Dec 2013
#51
The robber shot the store owner first. If I had to shoot a man who shot me first, I'd keep shooting
Shrike47
Nov 2013
#4
I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was that's all the ammunition they had.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Nov 2013
#15
On thought, I'm actually serious. LEO or civvie, if you carry you must be that skilled.
sir pball
Nov 2013
#34
For a department with 100 officers, you'd be looking at half a million dollars just for ammo to
Skeeter Barnes
Nov 2013
#43
And depending on what state you live in, your advice might just get a person charged with murder.
Lurks Often
Nov 2013
#44