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upaloopa

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21. Well I think we need to have both in the argument.
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:29 PM
Dec 2013

You know that when there is a mass shooting it opens all the wounds again. There is a time for statistics and there is not. Showing understanding when tragedy happens is a good thing. Showing indifference which rightly or wrongly looks like owning a gun is more important than the lives of people often leads to the offensive language.

PS: The same statiscal correction can be applied to all gun crime... NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #1
There has been an overall decrease in violent crime since the early 90's. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #26
Typical NRA twisted logic. upaloopa Dec 2013 #2
Do you understand how the science of statistics works? NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #3
I used to tutor statistics in college. upaloopa Dec 2013 #6
You obviously didn't read my preface and want to turn a reasoned discussion into accusations.... NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #8
What I said is the translation or purpose of your OP upaloopa Dec 2013 #11
Your translation is a tactic to avoid discussing the matter because you have no argument. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #12
Some start with reason, then fall back compassion... Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #28
Well well well. beevul Dec 2013 #31
I don't understand. upaloopa Dec 2013 #32
And I'm saying... beevul Dec 2013 #33
Typical gun controller twisted logic. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #4
You through the word fact around so much it lost it's meaning. upaloopa Dec 2013 #7
Your crowd does the same thing. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #10
Yep lots of wrong on all sides upaloopa Dec 2013 #25
Can't argue with that. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #27
Logic. Straw Man Dec 2013 #5
Not to the families who have lost loved ones upaloopa Dec 2013 #9
And that is an emotion based argument, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #13
That is just the point. Glad you get it. upaloopa Dec 2013 #15
So maybe both sides need to come together and figure out a way to Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #17
Gun rights people use emotion, too. You totally oversimplify things. And that makes you wrong. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #20
Well I think we need to have both in the argument. upaloopa Dec 2013 #21
We agree. But let's not accuse another of indifference for clarifying data. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #22
I'm just saying the offensive words directed at you upaloopa Dec 2013 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Dec 2013 #24
Where would they get that idea? beevul Dec 2013 #34
You don't really know what those families think, or if they all feel the same. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #14
Well we could follow up that with the words of the parents of kids killed last year in school. upaloopa Dec 2013 #16
Yes, we could selectively find all the words that make the case for either side of the issue. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #18
I think we agree more than we know upaloopa Dec 2013 #19
Eh? Straw Man Dec 2013 #30
Strawman. That's not what the poster stated. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #29
Thank you. From the link in OP: "•Mass shootings are on the rise." NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #35
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