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Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
9. Well, the something that must be done, is not bringing guns to class
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jan 2014

That's what this thread is about, a bunch of gun owners who want to have the "right" to bring guns into the classrooms and dorms.

My daughter went to RIT and Columbia.

Here's RIT crime report. https://finweb.rit.edu/publicsafety/apps2/crimealerts/index.cfm?cmd=ViewArchive

Here's Columbia's http://www.columbia.edu/cu/publicsafety/SecurityReport.pdf

I see nothing on either that would warrant anyone carrying a firearm.

So, if a 115lb girl can walk around campus and Harlem, day or night, without the need or desire to carry a gun, why would a 250lb guy?

My stepdaughter went to college in Colorado College, in Colorado Springs and Tulane

Here's Co College http://www.coloradocollege.edu/dotAsset/8ec871f4-9d71-43b0-9aba-53f5b168adba.pdf
And here is Tulane http://tulane.edu/police/uptown/reports/crimechart.cfm

The only crimes I see where a victim might consider using a firearm to prevent would be homicide and forcible rape.
I see no homicides in these stats. There are a few cases of forcible rape, which is a horrendous crime. However, most women do not consider carrying a firearm to be the solution. On the contrary, the introduction of a firearm is much more likely to result in an even worse outcome. Rapists are usually known to the victim, hence her defenses, including access to a gun, are down by the time she realizes that things have gone too far. Rape is about power and control, which is achieved by trickery and manipulation. The bogeyman/stranger rapes are much rarer.
So, unless you think preventing bicycle theft is worth killing for, please feel free to provide me with some stats that support carrying on campus. Some instances which have actually saved someone's life.

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Interesting challenge, but probably a waste of time. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #1
I hope they hold those who leave their guns in vehicles accountable Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #2
Why would you say this? ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #3
Well, the "real world rules" as you call them are already insane. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #4
Yes, how silly of you. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #5
How about the 20 hours a day they're not in the classroom? krispos42 Jan 2014 #6
Was that your college experience? Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #7
As a six-foot-tall, 250-pound man... krispos42 Jan 2014 #8
Well, the something that must be done, is not bringing guns to class Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #9
Where does it say anything about dorms? gejohnston Jan 2014 #10
And RIT's annual crime report compares to UConn's krispos42 Jan 2014 #11
We're talking here about campus carry, including classrooms Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #13
going through shitty neighborhoods to get to the class? gejohnston Jan 2014 #14
Did I suggest using the power of the state? Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #15
UF is a public school gejohnston Jan 2014 #16
I am aware of that, having studied there for a while Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #17
You forgot the dead French troops gejohnston Jan 2014 #19
Correct, only 23 states leave it to the University Admin. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #21
Strange that, Colorado allows Concealed carry on campus. oneshooter Jan 2014 #12
Correct. Colorado is going through some serious growing pains right now. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #18
Yet you allowed your children to go to these dangerous schools. oneshooter Jan 2014 #20
On the contrary. Nice try though. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #22
A legal 12ga is a bit difficult to conceal properly oneshooter Jan 2014 #23
Why would anyone want to conceal a gun? Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #24
Open carry is illegal in Texas. oneshooter Jan 2014 #25
So, is it only legal when on horseback? Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #26
private property, the same is true in Florida gejohnston Jan 2014 #28
UF needs to check with thier nykym Jan 2014 #27
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