Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

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12. Because a buyback program is not confiscation?

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Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:34 PM

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Gun violence in America continues unabated [View all] SecularMotion Jan 2014 OP

Even Australian gun laws would not have prevented it gejohnston Jan 2014 #1

When Australians gave back their guns SecularMotion Jan 2014 #2

they didn't give back anything gejohnston Jan 2014 #3

A third of the guns in Australia were handed in to the government. SecularMotion Jan 2014 #5

That's a lot of fine words. Why is it that the word "confiscated" was not used? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #10

Because a buyback program is not confiscation? SecularMotion Jan 2014 #12

You elide the fact that the owners only "choice" was to be reimbursed or not. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #13

I'm not entirely sure why you people are welcome around here. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #26

we don't alert gejohnston Mar 2014 #27

It was a success... Oakenshield Mar 2014 #29

not true gejohnston Mar 2014 #33

Drop the arson cases already. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #36

so it's about the guns, not the violence. gejohnston Apr 2014 #45

It's about GUN VIOLENCE. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #48

again, post hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston Apr 2014 #52

Like hell it is. beevul Apr 2014 #63

And here we arrive at the conundrum. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #67

Be advised, this isn't my first rodeo. beevul Apr 2014 #70

Not sure if I should feel sympathetic or laugh. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #73

just to stick my nose in gejohnston Apr 2014 #77

I would recommend something else - quit while you're behind. beevul Apr 2014 #79

Alert? Nonsense, that post was brilliant! How to count the ways? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #28

Ignorance of firearms technology? Oakenshield Mar 2014 #30

yes they were gejohnston Mar 2014 #31

Highly unlikely. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #32

no, the name was banned gejohnston Mar 2014 #34

Blatantly disengenuous. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #35

During the time frame of the "ban" I bought 3 stripped lowers. oneshooter Mar 2014 #37

If it was so ineffective, why did the NRA oppose it so furiously? Oakenshield Mar 2014 #38

Opposing ineffective, feel-good laws designed to appease the ignorant... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #40

Good on them? Welcome to my ignore list. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #44

I'm fine with that. However, your posts are still gonna be thoroughly fisked... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #51

seriously? gejohnston Mar 2014 #41

The size of the magazine DOES matter. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #42

she didn't read the report gejohnston Apr 2014 #46

Pay better attention. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #57

I don't know if that is actually true gejohnston Apr 2014 #59

So full of questions. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #62

I don't recall you ever being confirmed as Secretary of Needs friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #65

stupid argument gejohnston Apr 2014 #72

Oh, good. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #74

just not slang from gejohnston Apr 2014 #76

Another argument from authority, this time by proxy friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #50

*There's* the argument from authority you didn't use previously. You're getting better! friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #39

Post 31 utterly failed to contradict my point. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #43

Which were simply renamed and continued in production. And none were confiscated friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #47

actually, I did gejohnston Apr 2014 #49

Watch out, you'll be put on ignore and then we'll both be taking up... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #53

Yes, the gun industry doesn't like to be regulated. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #54

Actually, it is among the most regulated industries gejohnston Apr 2014 #55

Not regulated anywhere near enough compared to Europe. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #56

actually, it is gejohnston Apr 2014 #58

I first heard of Yee in passing, and that was from a Tea-Party type overjoyed at the prospet.... Oakenshield Apr 2014 #61

He or she should be as outraged as I am gejohnston Apr 2014 #66

Actually, it isn't. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #64

there is more to it than than that gejohnston Apr 2014 #69

I'm sure there is. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #71

not really gejohnston Apr 2014 #75

I applaud the effort you've made to explain your alternative solution. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #78

I'm glad you're here. Bazinga Apr 2014 #80

It helps to exchange arguments. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #85

Can't, or won't, be allies? Bazinga Apr 2014 #87

the problem is, your more crude method won't change anything gejohnston Apr 2014 #82

And I VEHEMENTLY disagree. Oakenshield Apr 2014 #84

Actually, Australia's gun ownership rate stayed the same gejohnston Apr 2014 #86

European gun culture probably isn't what you think it is friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #68

You seem to have a rather casual attitude towards factual accuracy friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #60

Aha. So the gun control movement doesn't want a conversation after all... beevul Apr 2014 #81

Well said, but our latest seagull poster* has left the room friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #88

If it's not voluntary, it sure is. NT Adrahil Jan 2014 #23

one is still greater than zero gejohnston Jan 2014 #20

i'm in phoenix. a few nights ago DesertFlower Jan 2014 #4

That's not even an average weekend in Chicago DonP Jan 2014 #6

Well, I guess to solve it you should come and confiscate my guns. Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #7

How One Democracy Changed After Scrapping a Third of its Firearms SecularMotion Jan 2014 #8

So I only need to let you confiscate 1/3 of my guns? Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #9

The "gradual" gun prohibitionists think we don't notice what they're trying to do. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #11

Why do you think we call them gun nuts? SecularMotion Jan 2014 #14

Because you're bigoted friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #17

Ah, yes. The School of Stigmata. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #21

Because as friendly stated, you practice "respectable" bigotry. pablo_marmol Mar 2014 #24

Interesting... NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #25

Here you go: pablo_marmol Apr 2014 #89

The perception among many mokawanis Jan 2014 #15

What regulations would you propose? blueridge3210 Jan 2014 #16

The perception comes from#14 above.. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #22

That perception is contrived and fostered with the intent of using it as a club... beevul Apr 2014 #83

And people want to take our ability to defend ourselves away... ileus Jan 2014 #18

Oh, you'll still be able to effectively defend yourself, if... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #19