Gun Control & RKBA

flamin lib

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25. Unenforceable is a straw man

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:01 PM

Feb 2014

2 Like traffic laws enforce after the fact. Put people in jail for 10 years if guns not stored safely result in death/injury and gun owners will store guns safely. Like using cell phones in school zones, pay a couple $200 fines and ya' learn to put the phone away. Do people still speed? Yeah. Does every body speed? No.

3. How is it unenforceable? Wanna buy a gun, do the background check and get the firearms course. Universal BG checks will take some time to be really effective but the
unchecked guns will eventually dry up.

6. Unenforceable short term but long term guns fall into 3 categories: lawfully registered, lost in Uncle John's closet and harmless or, if found, confiscated.

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Here's what I think should happen in the realm of gun control. [View all] sked14 Feb 2014 OP

Lots of action over in the other gun forum, not so much here. flamin lib Feb 2014 #1

I don't know. sked14 Feb 2014 #2

Yeah, who is better equipped to propose real, meaninful and workable gun violence flamin lib Feb 2014 #4

NRA and GOA should have no place at the table, sked14 Feb 2014 #6

Sadly if that is your stance you will NEVER get any of your wishes made into new laws n/t shedevil69taz Feb 2014 #12

some issues bossy22 Feb 2014 #3

All good points, sked14 Feb 2014 #5

OK flamin lib Feb 2014 #10

Good ideas, but I say no to 6 and 7. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #7

I think there would have to be a severe penalty for registration being used sked14 Feb 2014 #8

Just who would enforce any penalty? clffrdjk Feb 2014 #9

What's left give up? flamin lib Feb 2014 #11

Universal shall issue CCW valid in all 50 states...that would be the START of what I would need shedevil69taz Feb 2014 #13

How about you make the cops abide by the same rules and regs I have to. clffrdjk Feb 2014 #14

I chose you to reply to flamin lib Feb 2014 #22

Thanks I guess, those were just a few things off the top of my head clffrdjk Feb 2014 #23

National reciprocity sarisataka Feb 2014 #17

Open the NFA! SQUEE Feb 2014 #32

Fairly reasonable sarisataka Feb 2014 #15

I agree that there is presently no way to guarantee that sked14 Feb 2014 #16

If someone could come up sarisataka Feb 2014 #20

What is the reason(s) for national registration? Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #33

I'm kinda leaning away from a national registration sked14 Feb 2014 #35

I am puzzled as to why NICS isn't just opened up. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #40

I am too, sked14 Feb 2014 #41

And cheap, too. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #42

I think the NRA, and a lot of larger retailers oppose letting go SQUEE Feb 2014 #44

because you are clearly expecting an armed confrontation with the gov't CreekDog Feb 2014 #46

Do tell... sarisataka Feb 2014 #47

Actually, I think it's more likely he believes ... Straw Man Feb 2014 #48

On #8, do you mean replacing SYG with an explicit duty-to-retreat law, petronius Feb 2014 #18

Not quite sure on this one, sked14 Feb 2014 #36

those are the only two choices gejohnston Feb 2014 #39

problem with SYG gejohnston Feb 2014 #19

Good Post! MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #21

Unenforceable is a straw man flamin lib Feb 2014 #25

Unenforceable is reality MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #38

Are traffic laws ineffective? To some small degree yes, people still speed. flamin lib Feb 2014 #43

I think we should drop the issue. Laelth Feb 2014 #24

The Democratic Party didn't even mention "gun control" till 1968. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #30

I could go for every thing except #6. Packerowner740 Feb 2014 #26

I thought I was going to have a problem with this. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #27

I'm with you up to the end. Straw Man Feb 2014 #28

1 - 5 I generally support, depending on details & Commerce Clause problems. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #29

The principle I work from regarding registration is this... Bazinga Feb 2014 #31

Opening the present NICS to All sellers is often advocated in this group. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #34

Thank you everyone for the feedback, sked14 Feb 2014 #37

I support 1 through 5. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #45

After some serious thought clffrdjk Feb 2014 #49

I am of the same mind, for the same reason. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #50