Gun Control & RKBA

Eleanors38

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30. The Democratic Party didn't even mention "gun control" till 1968.

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:37 PM

Feb 2014

Pushing control has brought us the modern NRA, and the greatest liberalizing of gun laws in our history. But I have never objected to all Ameticans having a clean criminal b.g., and no adjudicated findings of mental incompetencies before obtaining a firearm.

I am struck by this: In a climate of strong pro-2A rights, cut backs in mental health and safety net funding, and few legal requirements for safely securing arms, the gun-homicide rates, and childhood gun accident rates have both gone down markedly. Something is working. It would behoove all of us to find out what that thing is.

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Here's what I think should happen in the realm of gun control. [View all] sked14 Feb 2014 OP

Lots of action over in the other gun forum, not so much here. flamin lib Feb 2014 #1

I don't know. sked14 Feb 2014 #2

Yeah, who is better equipped to propose real, meaninful and workable gun violence flamin lib Feb 2014 #4

NRA and GOA should have no place at the table, sked14 Feb 2014 #6

Sadly if that is your stance you will NEVER get any of your wishes made into new laws n/t shedevil69taz Feb 2014 #12

some issues bossy22 Feb 2014 #3

All good points, sked14 Feb 2014 #5

OK flamin lib Feb 2014 #10

Good ideas, but I say no to 6 and 7. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #7

I think there would have to be a severe penalty for registration being used sked14 Feb 2014 #8

Just who would enforce any penalty? clffrdjk Feb 2014 #9

What's left give up? flamin lib Feb 2014 #11

Universal shall issue CCW valid in all 50 states...that would be the START of what I would need shedevil69taz Feb 2014 #13

How about you make the cops abide by the same rules and regs I have to. clffrdjk Feb 2014 #14

I chose you to reply to flamin lib Feb 2014 #22

Thanks I guess, those were just a few things off the top of my head clffrdjk Feb 2014 #23

National reciprocity sarisataka Feb 2014 #17

Open the NFA! SQUEE Feb 2014 #32

Fairly reasonable sarisataka Feb 2014 #15

I agree that there is presently no way to guarantee that sked14 Feb 2014 #16

If someone could come up sarisataka Feb 2014 #20

What is the reason(s) for national registration? Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #33

I'm kinda leaning away from a national registration sked14 Feb 2014 #35

I am puzzled as to why NICS isn't just opened up. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #40

I am too, sked14 Feb 2014 #41

And cheap, too. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #42

I think the NRA, and a lot of larger retailers oppose letting go SQUEE Feb 2014 #44

because you are clearly expecting an armed confrontation with the gov't CreekDog Feb 2014 #46

Do tell... sarisataka Feb 2014 #47

Actually, I think it's more likely he believes ... Straw Man Feb 2014 #48

On #8, do you mean replacing SYG with an explicit duty-to-retreat law, petronius Feb 2014 #18

Not quite sure on this one, sked14 Feb 2014 #36

those are the only two choices gejohnston Feb 2014 #39

problem with SYG gejohnston Feb 2014 #19

Good Post! MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #21

Unenforceable is a straw man flamin lib Feb 2014 #25

Unenforceable is reality MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #38

Are traffic laws ineffective? To some small degree yes, people still speed. flamin lib Feb 2014 #43

I think we should drop the issue. Laelth Feb 2014 #24

The Democratic Party didn't even mention "gun control" till 1968. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #30

I could go for every thing except #6. Packerowner740 Feb 2014 #26

I thought I was going to have a problem with this. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #27

I'm with you up to the end. Straw Man Feb 2014 #28

1 - 5 I generally support, depending on details & Commerce Clause problems. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #29

The principle I work from regarding registration is this... Bazinga Feb 2014 #31

Opening the present NICS to All sellers is often advocated in this group. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #34

Thank you everyone for the feedback, sked14 Feb 2014 #37

I support 1 through 5. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #45

After some serious thought clffrdjk Feb 2014 #49

I am of the same mind, for the same reason. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #50