Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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23. failed analogy

Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:47 PM

Feb 2014

since firearms are used in one third of Canadian murders, most of them with illegally imported handguns, and very rarely with any firearm owned by a someone with a valid PAL, be it unrestricted, restricted, or for prohibited weapons (mostly grandfathered machine guns) and even fewer yet by a rifle of any kind.
Guns have more social utility and are less harmful than either of the drugs, including alcohol, when used responsibly.
No one is mentally or physically harmed by making a firearm. The same can't be the same for kiddie porn. Individual humans are harmed in its manufacture.
Analogy fail, massive logical fallacy.

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(Canada) Decision to reclassify Swiss firearms (SG-550 or SG-551) angers gun owners [View all] Electric Monk Feb 2014 OP

Copyedit note: You used the redundant phrase, "angers gun owners" villager Feb 2014 #1

because they are fun to shoot bossy22 Feb 2014 #2

I've heard that cocaine and heroin can be fun, too. Some people enjoy kiddie porn. Electric Monk Feb 2014 #14

So now gun ownership is akin to destructive drug use and child molestation. clffrdjk Feb 2014 #19

Bossy said "fun" was enough reason. I disagree, and think fun doesn't come close to enough reason. Electric Monk Feb 2014 #22

Yea, that does not explain away your idiotic comparison. clffrdjk Feb 2014 #27

failed analogy gejohnston Feb 2014 #23

Did I say making? This OP was about ownership and use, and where can the line be drawn. Electric Monk Feb 2014 #26

So what makes this gun special? clffrdjk Feb 2014 #28

Proven wrong? I'm not a gun expert or Cdn gun law expert. You're arguing with wikipedia. Electric Monk Feb 2014 #30

No, I am asking you a few questions to get you to expand on your opinion. clffrdjk Feb 2014 #37

My analogy was the similar mentality of hardcore users, that "fun" was reason enough Electric Monk Feb 2014 #46

that is where your analogy fails gejohnston Feb 2014 #47

I'm discussing the mentality of the users, with "fun" being justification enough. nt Electric Monk Feb 2014 #48

that's when your analogy gejohnston Feb 2014 #50

Classic projection. You got called a name once and it stung? Call someone else it! LOL. nt Electric Monk Mar 2014 #53

Question - pablo_marmol Feb 2014 #51

You lost me at "I'm not hurting anyone" Electric Monk Mar 2014 #52

So now we are murderers too. clffrdjk Mar 2014 #54

Losing someone who dishes slurs pablo_marmol Mar 2014 #55

You really want to stick with that eh. clffrdjk Feb 2014 #49

There is a difference between drawing a line and moving an established line. gejohnston Feb 2014 #32

Pretty much everything was once legal. Essentially, everything starts out that way. beevul Feb 2014 #33

they are not machine guns gejohnston Feb 2014 #3

The wiki link says select fire: Safe, 1, 3, or 20. Electric Monk Feb 2014 #4

If they were full auto gejohnston Feb 2014 #5

Wikipedia excerpt here: NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #10

Again. Your wiki describes the military variant. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #16

And your link says this ... Straw Man Feb 2014 #31

But they get the thanks of a gun-reduced society. That's worth a lot! n/t Loudly Feb 2014 #6

actually no, gejohnston Feb 2014 #7

What subset are deranged American-style militia types who denounce universal medical care? Loudly Feb 2014 #8

none, gejohnston Feb 2014 #13

re: "WTF does someone need a gun..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2014 #9

That is a sweet car Duckhunter935 Feb 2014 #11

See post #14. Some people "need" kiddie porn, apparently, too. Doesn't mean it should be legal. Electric Monk Feb 2014 #15

And obviously you "need" to keep posting this. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #17

Define "this". Are you accusing me of pedophilia for thinking "fun" can be a bad thing? Electric Monk Feb 2014 #24

It's obvious that you use pedophilia as an example of harm but your analogy is wrong. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #38

You seem quite interested in "kiddie porn," having mentioned it twice. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #18

How many times have you talked about guns? LOL nt Electric Monk Feb 2014 #20

They own guns..are intrested in guns, and use guns. SQUEE Mar 2014 #57

The existence of "kiddie porn", is proof of harm... beevul Feb 2014 #34

I'd'nit discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2014 #41

WHAT!?!?! rrneck Feb 2014 #29

Boys need toys discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2014 #42

does the Zenith keep time as well as a $34 gejohnston Feb 2014 #43

AFAIK... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2014 #44

"This is a ghost gun" (this is your brain on self-promotion through fear) NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #12

meh. It's a semi-auto rifle. And expensive, too. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #21

My question is gejohnston Feb 2014 #25

Let me guess, the registration records in Canada identify the owners SkatmanRoth Feb 2014 #35

since the long gun registration gejohnston Feb 2014 #40

"Was supposed to" clffrdjk Feb 2014 #45

Nothing wrong with owning a counter assault rifle. ileus Feb 2014 #36

So if it had a traditional wooden stock and foregrip it would be ok? hack89 Feb 2014 #39

Its the adjustable stock Duckhunter935 Mar 2014 #56