Gun Control & RKBA

Loudly

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29. You be honest with your Own self.

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 03:47 PM

Mar 2014

That plank is pandering and you know it.

It reflects the party's fear of offending the fearful.

Sand down the surface of that plank and inquire what it is really saying.

There is an individual right to guns and ammo for the purpose of engaging in armed rebellion against our government?

Do Democrats really believe that?

Nach.

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"We don't want to take your guns" New Jersey wants to. [View all] oneshooter Mar 2014 OP

Kind of like when they banned the possession of child pornography? n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #1

You seem up on the child porn issue; could you provide details? Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #5

Instant illegality is and was an absolute good in both situations. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #8

The old song-and-dance. Straw Man Mar 2014 #17

InstaFelon�. A prohi's wet dream! Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #23

You do realize that those are real, Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #6

I made the comparison to respond to the complaints about instant illegality. Loudly Mar 2014 #7

Wheww! I'm sorry! Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #9

Exploitation is damaging, but there are too many apologists on here for guns and ammo. Loudly Mar 2014 #11

+1000% n/m Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #15

what about the many more lives that are saved because they have gejohnston Mar 2014 #16

You're dealing with a Zealot blueridge3210 Mar 2014 #22

Again with statistics? Why can I find a child shooting victim story every day? Loudly Mar 2014 #30

because it was the same story several times gejohnston Mar 2014 #32

Who am I going to believe? You or my own lying eyes? n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #33

neither, gejohnston Mar 2014 #35

Well I know that can't be right, because there is at least one unique story each day. Loudly Mar 2014 #36

sorry, the CDC stat stand gejohnston Mar 2014 #42

How does this law affect child shooting victims? Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #73

Every child porn ring was busted up by people carrying guns and the offenders are sent Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #27

I've got no problem with the people you mentioned carrying guns on the job. Loudly Mar 2014 #31

Does the presence or absence of a badge make them more or less trustworthy? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #37

Why is it... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #39

Some people only accept the dispensing of Commandments on the assumption Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #40

And they think they can elect a god? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #41

Think about it. Are they not saying -- Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #43

Politicians have a language all their own discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #44

Hey shares... beevul Mar 2014 #24

You be honest with your Own self. Loudly Mar 2014 #29

Do Democrats really believe that? gejohnston Mar 2014 #34

That is the equation that the Prohis do not consider. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #38

The Confederacy was exactly that. Loudly Mar 2014 #48

Are you running for some office... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #50

actually it wasn't gejohnston Mar 2014 #51

I always feel smarter after reading your posts. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #105

I'll see if I can find some. gejohnston Mar 2014 #106

The confederacy was anti-Constitutional. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #52

It's the Covenant of Appomattox expressed at the time. Loudly Mar 2014 #54

The Confederacy's surrender cannot abrogate the Constitution because the Confederacy Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #61

Guns and ammo in the hands of the public is anarchy. Loudly Mar 2014 #64

There are hundreds of millions of gun owners in the US. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #74

Are you turning your gun on police, eugenicists and unethical researchers? Loudly Mar 2014 #77

Deacons for Defense and Justice Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #80

Fascinating historical footnote. Loudly Mar 2014 #85

local officials were acting ex-officio as private citizen harrassers. gejohnston Mar 2014 #89

Remember, though, that you are advocating a right of armed rebellion on their behalf. Loudly Mar 2014 #90

no I'm not. gejohnston Mar 2014 #92

Remember, though, that you are advocating a right of Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #108

Your (blind) faith in such an error is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #62

Is this a Democrat? sarisataka Mar 2014 #45

It sounds like Hubert Humphrey trying not to offend the fearful. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #46

The late Vice-President made the statement on guns sarisataka Mar 2014 #47

The John Birch Society was founded in 1958. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #49

And you think many JBS members sarisataka Mar 2014 #53

Trying to neutralize the votes of her supporters, certainly. Loudly Mar 2014 #55

fearful moderates and independents gejohnston Mar 2014 #56

Do you remember BPO the candidate referring to fearful Americans? Loudly Mar 2014 #57

BPO? gejohnston Mar 2014 #59

PBO I mean. Loudly Mar 2014 #63

no he didn't gejohnston Mar 2014 #66

TPers will just jump ship sarisataka Mar 2014 #60

Do you think President Obama believes in a right of armed rebellion against the United States? Loudly Mar 2014 #65

Would you have believed in the right of armed rebellion sarisataka Mar 2014 #67

What relevance would such a scenario have to the pretend claim of a right to guns and ammo? Loudly Mar 2014 #72

Or maybe those of reckless ambition understand that Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #76

So as long as sarisataka Mar 2014 #81

I like to think that gejohnston Mar 2014 #69

Irrelevant. beevul Mar 2014 #107

You have misrepresented the child pornography analogy. Bazinga Mar 2014 #21

Here's where you're wrong. Possession of the Images is criminal. Loudly Mar 2014 #68

no, gejohnston Mar 2014 #71

Photos of crimes in progress are not per se contraband. Loudly Mar 2014 #75

no, gejohnston Mar 2014 #78

WTH?!?! Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #79

I think you've morphed the 2A into something different. Loudly Mar 2014 #82

The only person appealing to fantasies of bandits and marauders would be the Prohis. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #84

Plenty of democratic republics get along fine without your unnecessary firearms complication. Loudly Mar 2014 #86

name one such democratic republic. gejohnston Mar 2014 #87

Japan and Australia. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #88

no. gejohnston Mar 2014 #91

Yes, I'm wrong about their form of government. Loudly Mar 2014 #94

I don't call social control gejohnston Mar 2014 #95

Hey, why isn't the USA on this list? Loudly Mar 2014 #96

because the name is United States of America gejohnston Mar 2014 #97

I duly noted the "self-described" qualifier. Loudly Mar 2014 #98

Japan's gun laws ... Straw Man Mar 2014 #123

Ah, yes. With Prohis it always come back to sexual innuendos. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #99

Possession of the image is criminal because the making of that image is a crime. Bazinga Mar 2014 #83

If what you say was anywhere close to being accurate Loudly Mar 2014 #93

Possession of snuff porn is illegal. Crimeny. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #100

good. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #2

No way it will pass Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #3

More meaningless, symbolic culture-war bans. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #4

Can somebody help me here? Jenoch Mar 2014 #10

All of the 22 rimfires with under barrel tube magazines hold 15 rds. oneshooter Mar 2014 #12

You are right. Jenoch Mar 2014 #13

because they exist gejohnston Mar 2014 #14

Looks pure evil, doesn't it? Straw Man Mar 2014 #18

don't forget the vintage gejohnston Mar 2014 #19

Looks like plastic HubertHeaver Mar 2014 #20

It will shoot tighter groups than any box stock Ruger 10/22 and do it for a lot less money. Skeeter Barnes Mar 2014 #58

A deadly Marlin Model 60! It's the squirrel on the stock that makes it so dangerous in NJ DonP Mar 2014 #25

Looks like a non-issue - probable veto discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #26

So, while Christie is imploding the legislature throws him a life line with a proven losing issue. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #28

folks love victims....why else propose limiting our ability to defend ourselves? ileus Mar 2014 #70

A Marlin 60 Token Republican Mar 2014 #102

Most people in New Jersey would like to see much stricter gun laws... Walk away Mar 2014 #101

are you saying gejohnston Mar 2014 #103

Are you saying that Maya Angelou, Jerry Brown and Ed Schultz are against stricter gun regulations?? Walk away Mar 2014 #109

I have no idea gejohnston Mar 2014 #110

Another lie! Where in my posts did I say anything about "gun owners" in general??? Walk away Mar 2014 #112

Unlimited firepower and military style weaponry? Straw Man Mar 2014 #113

I hate to break your gun bubble but most folks who own guns.... Walk away Mar 2014 #114

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Straw Man Mar 2014 #115

I will repeat this for you so that you understand. Walk away Mar 2014 #119

You can stow the snark. You're not very good at it anyway. Straw Man Mar 2014 #122

You used the term "gun lover" gejohnston Mar 2014 #116

Even a complete gun nut can't possibly believe that.... Walk away Mar 2014 #117

I made nothing up gejohnston Mar 2014 #118

This is the last post for me on the subject but.... Walk away Mar 2014 #120

you have not proven that I lied. gejohnston Mar 2014 #121

Jerry Brown was and is against stricter gun legislation and vetoes seven proposed laws last October. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #111

A majority of voters in California banned marriage equality friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #104