Gun Control & RKBA

Nuclear Unicorn

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37. Does the presence or absence of a badge make them more or less trustworthy?

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:24 PM

Mar 2014

Considering all the questionable police shootings in the line of duty I have my doubts.

I also presume that since you do not approve of LEOs carrying out of uniform then you would probably be opposed to citizens exercising their natural rights to self-defense.

It is an odd paradigm that does not trust the police nor the citizenry. If you do not trust the police then you assume they are a threat to the citizenry. Yet, you demand the citizenry remains disarmed in the face of what you declare to be a threat. Yet you also assume that those who elect to be criminals will somehow be disarmed by acts of law when the number of on-duty police to population at any given time is 1/3 of 256 per 100,000.

Peculiar.

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"We don't want to take your guns" New Jersey wants to. [View all] oneshooter Mar 2014 OP

Kind of like when they banned the possession of child pornography? n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #1

You seem up on the child porn issue; could you provide details? Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #5

Instant illegality is and was an absolute good in both situations. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #8

The old song-and-dance. Straw Man Mar 2014 #17

InstaFelon�. A prohi's wet dream! Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #23

You do realize that those are real, Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #6

I made the comparison to respond to the complaints about instant illegality. Loudly Mar 2014 #7

Wheww! I'm sorry! Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #9

Exploitation is damaging, but there are too many apologists on here for guns and ammo. Loudly Mar 2014 #11

+1000% n/m Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #15

what about the many more lives that are saved because they have gejohnston Mar 2014 #16

You're dealing with a Zealot blueridge3210 Mar 2014 #22

Again with statistics? Why can I find a child shooting victim story every day? Loudly Mar 2014 #30

because it was the same story several times gejohnston Mar 2014 #32

Who am I going to believe? You or my own lying eyes? n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #33

neither, gejohnston Mar 2014 #35

Well I know that can't be right, because there is at least one unique story each day. Loudly Mar 2014 #36

sorry, the CDC stat stand gejohnston Mar 2014 #42

How does this law affect child shooting victims? Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #73

Every child porn ring was busted up by people carrying guns and the offenders are sent Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #27

I've got no problem with the people you mentioned carrying guns on the job. Loudly Mar 2014 #31

Does the presence or absence of a badge make them more or less trustworthy? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #37

Why is it... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #39

Some people only accept the dispensing of Commandments on the assumption Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #40

And they think they can elect a god? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #41

Think about it. Are they not saying -- Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #43

Politicians have a language all their own discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #44

Hey shares... beevul Mar 2014 #24

You be honest with your Own self. Loudly Mar 2014 #29

Do Democrats really believe that? gejohnston Mar 2014 #34

That is the equation that the Prohis do not consider. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #38

The Confederacy was exactly that. Loudly Mar 2014 #48

Are you running for some office... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #50

actually it wasn't gejohnston Mar 2014 #51

I always feel smarter after reading your posts. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #105

I'll see if I can find some. gejohnston Mar 2014 #106

The confederacy was anti-Constitutional. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #52

It's the Covenant of Appomattox expressed at the time. Loudly Mar 2014 #54

The Confederacy's surrender cannot abrogate the Constitution because the Confederacy Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #61

Guns and ammo in the hands of the public is anarchy. Loudly Mar 2014 #64

There are hundreds of millions of gun owners in the US. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #74

Are you turning your gun on police, eugenicists and unethical researchers? Loudly Mar 2014 #77

Deacons for Defense and Justice Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #80

Fascinating historical footnote. Loudly Mar 2014 #85

local officials were acting ex-officio as private citizen harrassers. gejohnston Mar 2014 #89

Remember, though, that you are advocating a right of armed rebellion on their behalf. Loudly Mar 2014 #90

no I'm not. gejohnston Mar 2014 #92

Remember, though, that you are advocating a right of Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #108

Your (blind) faith in such an error is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #62

Is this a Democrat? sarisataka Mar 2014 #45

It sounds like Hubert Humphrey trying not to offend the fearful. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #46

The late Vice-President made the statement on guns sarisataka Mar 2014 #47

The John Birch Society was founded in 1958. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #49

And you think many JBS members sarisataka Mar 2014 #53

Trying to neutralize the votes of her supporters, certainly. Loudly Mar 2014 #55

fearful moderates and independents gejohnston Mar 2014 #56

Do you remember BPO the candidate referring to fearful Americans? Loudly Mar 2014 #57

BPO? gejohnston Mar 2014 #59

PBO I mean. Loudly Mar 2014 #63

no he didn't gejohnston Mar 2014 #66

TPers will just jump ship sarisataka Mar 2014 #60

Do you think President Obama believes in a right of armed rebellion against the United States? Loudly Mar 2014 #65

Would you have believed in the right of armed rebellion sarisataka Mar 2014 #67

What relevance would such a scenario have to the pretend claim of a right to guns and ammo? Loudly Mar 2014 #72

Or maybe those of reckless ambition understand that Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #76

So as long as sarisataka Mar 2014 #81

I like to think that gejohnston Mar 2014 #69

Irrelevant. beevul Mar 2014 #107

You have misrepresented the child pornography analogy. Bazinga Mar 2014 #21

Here's where you're wrong. Possession of the Images is criminal. Loudly Mar 2014 #68

no, gejohnston Mar 2014 #71

Photos of crimes in progress are not per se contraband. Loudly Mar 2014 #75

no, gejohnston Mar 2014 #78

WTH?!?! Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #79

I think you've morphed the 2A into something different. Loudly Mar 2014 #82

The only person appealing to fantasies of bandits and marauders would be the Prohis. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #84

Plenty of democratic republics get along fine without your unnecessary firearms complication. Loudly Mar 2014 #86

name one such democratic republic. gejohnston Mar 2014 #87

Japan and Australia. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #88

no. gejohnston Mar 2014 #91

Yes, I'm wrong about their form of government. Loudly Mar 2014 #94

I don't call social control gejohnston Mar 2014 #95

Hey, why isn't the USA on this list? Loudly Mar 2014 #96

because the name is United States of America gejohnston Mar 2014 #97

I duly noted the "self-described" qualifier. Loudly Mar 2014 #98

Japan's gun laws ... Straw Man Mar 2014 #123

Ah, yes. With Prohis it always come back to sexual innuendos. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #99

Possession of the image is criminal because the making of that image is a crime. Bazinga Mar 2014 #83

If what you say was anywhere close to being accurate Loudly Mar 2014 #93

Possession of snuff porn is illegal. Crimeny. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #100

good. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #2

No way it will pass Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #3

More meaningless, symbolic culture-war bans. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #4

Can somebody help me here? Jenoch Mar 2014 #10

All of the 22 rimfires with under barrel tube magazines hold 15 rds. oneshooter Mar 2014 #12

You are right. Jenoch Mar 2014 #13

because they exist gejohnston Mar 2014 #14

Looks pure evil, doesn't it? Straw Man Mar 2014 #18

don't forget the vintage gejohnston Mar 2014 #19

Looks like plastic HubertHeaver Mar 2014 #20

It will shoot tighter groups than any box stock Ruger 10/22 and do it for a lot less money. Skeeter Barnes Mar 2014 #58

A deadly Marlin Model 60! It's the squirrel on the stock that makes it so dangerous in NJ DonP Mar 2014 #25

Looks like a non-issue - probable veto discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #26

So, while Christie is imploding the legislature throws him a life line with a proven losing issue. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #28

folks love victims....why else propose limiting our ability to defend ourselves? ileus Mar 2014 #70

A Marlin 60 Token Republican Mar 2014 #102

Most people in New Jersey would like to see much stricter gun laws... Walk away Mar 2014 #101

are you saying gejohnston Mar 2014 #103

Are you saying that Maya Angelou, Jerry Brown and Ed Schultz are against stricter gun regulations?? Walk away Mar 2014 #109

I have no idea gejohnston Mar 2014 #110

Another lie! Where in my posts did I say anything about "gun owners" in general??? Walk away Mar 2014 #112

Unlimited firepower and military style weaponry? Straw Man Mar 2014 #113

I hate to break your gun bubble but most folks who own guns.... Walk away Mar 2014 #114

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Straw Man Mar 2014 #115

I will repeat this for you so that you understand. Walk away Mar 2014 #119

You can stow the snark. You're not very good at it anyway. Straw Man Mar 2014 #122

You used the term "gun lover" gejohnston Mar 2014 #116

Even a complete gun nut can't possibly believe that.... Walk away Mar 2014 #117

I made nothing up gejohnston Mar 2014 #118

This is the last post for me on the subject but.... Walk away Mar 2014 #120

you have not proven that I lied. gejohnston Mar 2014 #121

Jerry Brown was and is against stricter gun legislation and vetoes seven proposed laws last October. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #111

A majority of voters in California banned marriage equality friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #104