"We don't want to take your guns" New Jersey wants to.

[beevul]

107. Irrelevant.

"That plank is pandering and you know it."

Irrelevant. Whether it is pandering or not, it IS a major plank of the party platform, and your views as well as those of the rest of the "ban them all" crowd, are extremist and incompatible with it.

"There is an individual right to guns and ammo for the purpose of engaging in armed rebellion against our government?"

Strawman. I didn't make that argument. My argument, is simply that the bill of rights is a laundry list of restrictions on the the exercise of power, by government, and that the second amendment is among that list.

And theres no disputing that that's exactly what it is.

"It reflects the party's fear of offending the fearful."

So not only are your views extremist on the topic of guns, but you further elude to the fact that such views enumerated within the party platform would lead to lost elections.

That says about all that needs saying, I think.

Yup.