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11. It was widely predicted that many gun owners in New York State would refuse to register ...
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 01:28 PM
Apr 2014

their firearms. No surprise there.

Law enforcement has its hands full dealing with dangerous criminals. The street cop is not all that interested in arresting honest citizens who fail to comply with what they may view as a useless law.
Apparently some police chiefs and sheriffs in New York State also feel this way.

Some states such as Florida forbid registration of firearms.

The 2013 Florida Statutes
Chapter 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS


***snip***

The Legislature finds and declares that:
1. The right of individuals to keep and bear arms is guaranteed under both the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and s. 8, Art. I of the State Constitution.
2. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a law enforcement tool and can become an instrument for profiling, harassing, or abusing law-abiding citizens based on their choice to own a firearm and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution. Further, such a list, record, or registry has the potential to fall into the wrong hands and become a shopping list for thieves.
3. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a tool for fighting terrorism, but rather is an instrument that can be used as a means to profile innocent citizens and to harass and abuse American citizens based solely on their choice to own firearms and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution.
...emphasis added
4. Law-abiding firearm owners whose names have been illegally recorded in a list, record, or registry are entitled to redress.
(b) The Legislature intends through the provisions of this section to:
1. Protect the right of individuals to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under both the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and s. 8, Art. I of the State Constitution.
2. Protect the privacy rights of law-abiding firearm owners.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.335.html


The really sad part to this is that many New York State voters may vote against good Democrats over this issue and their vote may make the difference in close elections. The effort to register firearms in New York State may also cause Democrats to lose or not get seats in other states.

Many if not most gun owners believe that registration is the first step to confiscation. Little the gun control advocates can say will convince them otherwise.







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Cult of firearms incites disobedience [View all] SecularMotion Apr 2014 OP
A law is a codification of popular consent. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #1
But they need guns because criminal have guns intaglio Apr 2014 #2
Secular's favorite group is not the one he hosts? Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #3
That's pretty sad DonP Apr 2014 #4
I think the poster is fun, at least for me they are The Straight Story Apr 2014 #7
I think the idea might be to claim turf. rrneck Apr 2014 #6
you very well may be right Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #8
It's not worth it to me. rrneck Apr 2014 #9
I'll just refer you to this post SecularMotion Apr 2014 #10
define harassment gejohnston Apr 2014 #13
I had a nice discussion with the host Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #17
DU is a website for liberals. SecularMotion Apr 2014 #18
DU is for Democrats gejohnston Apr 2014 #19
Who do you think you're fooling? SecularMotion Apr 2014 #21
it must drive you crazy Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #22
You again? SecularMotion Apr 2014 #23
yes, I am here Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #25
I promote the truth gejohnston Apr 2014 #24
so now we need to Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #20
Feel free to prove our views aren't liberal. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #26
*sound of crickets chirping* Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #43
The definition of liberal is more open, more free, generous. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #42
Is that like a cult of abortion? Or a cult of civil rights? The Straight Story Apr 2014 #5
It was widely predicted that many gun owners in New York State would refuse to register ... spin Apr 2014 #11
Because, of course, we should never question whether the laws need to be changed. krispos42 Apr 2014 #12
Do you also question the need for "Stand your Ground" laws? SecularMotion Apr 2014 #15
Florida was stand your ground by common law before hand gejohnston Apr 2014 #16
Zimmerman had no ability to escape? flamin lib Apr 2014 #27
I once believed that too gejohnston Apr 2014 #33
Nope, still full of shit. flamin lib Apr 2014 #34
sorry, gejohnston Apr 2014 #35
Well, we agree on one thing. flamin lib Apr 2014 #38
We were both lied to gejohnston Apr 2014 #39
So you're psychic, too? HALO141 Apr 2014 #45
Well, considering the laws were passed long before he was killed... krispos42 Apr 2014 #28
I'd re-think the SAFE Act if it enabled the murders of innocent youth SecularMotion Apr 2014 #29
sure made some ugly rifles Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #30
Magazine capacity and cosmetic feature bans blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #31
"Just following orders" is where most problems start. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #14
Amen to this.. SQUEE Apr 2014 #32
Not sad, not discouraging. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #36
You either support civil disobedience in principle or you don’t. gejohnston Apr 2014 #37
It would be civil disobedience if they marched and demonstrated out in flamin lib Apr 2014 #41
marching and demonstrating is legal gejohnston Apr 2014 #44
I'll juat declare victory now as this is going nowhere. flamin lib Apr 2014 #46
there are a couple of smilies for that gejohnston Apr 2014 #47
The oath... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2014 #40
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