Gun Control & RKBA

randys1

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126. I want to carry around a bottle of the Ebola Virus, tiz my new hobby, OK with you folks?

Wed Apr 23, 2014, 05:41 PM

Apr 2014

I mean, we know there isnt a single legitimate reason for any American to own any gun other than folk who live way out in the woods and need it for hunting, which is a tiny tiny minority.

We know that if we wanted to we could control all guns including criminals access to guns, eventually, the same way we control the Ebola Virus.

But if you get to carry around a semi automatic machine gun and take it into churches and stores (heard today some idiot state made that legal now) I get to carry around my Ebola Virus, deal?

I might drop it on the floor, the same way you might accidentally shoot me or get pissed and since you have the gun shoot 20 people.

The difference is?

Forget your misinterpretation of the 2nd amendment for this conversation, explain to me the difference?

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Is Everytown For Gun Safety really this ignorant? [View all] Jgarrick Apr 2014 OP

Is every apologist for gun violence really this ignorant? villager Apr 2014 #1

Consider asking an actual "apologist for gun violence." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #4

Well, you'd be one. villager Apr 2014 #5

Nice slander. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #6

Greetings! bravenak Apr 2014 #14

#6... JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #25

I agree. bravenak Apr 2014 #41

I'm glad it didn't get hidden. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #60

I'm guessing that the irony escapes... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2014 #80

Ooh! Fancy words! "apologist" and now, OMG, "proliferationist".... NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #44

Sort of like the fictive label "Gun-grabber" you mean, and what it tells about the user? villager Apr 2014 #47

Yes, indeed! I try to avoid the term for the very same reason, it's just divisive. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #51

Apology larryjf Apr 2014 #131

Smileys show a lack of concern? SQUEE Apr 2014 #65

When entire cartridges fly out of the muzzle... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #2

Or just buy the correct ammo for the gun next time. ManiacJoe Apr 2014 #37

Or use a sabot. John1956PA Apr 2014 #102

Well, to be fair in terms of imagery the entire cartridge has greater symbolic power. rrneck Apr 2014 #3

I wonder if this was designed by the former MDA group? DonP Apr 2014 #7

Superman is faster than a speeding bullet. upaloopa Apr 2014 #8

So we've now established that an organization devoted to gun control is better informed about Jgarrick Apr 2014 #9

So you can outrun a bullet? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #32

one launched cartridge and all out of an unrifled barrel, yeah probably.. SQUEE Apr 2014 #66

oooo-k? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #68

I never asserted I could. What we do know is that while the poster demonstrates a certain Jgarrick Apr 2014 #70

Ah, but Superman was impervious to gunshots. JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #27

I want to see the cartridge that fired *that* thing!! SeattleVet Apr 2014 #10

So they should show an actual person being shot instead? Would that pass your test? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #26

Test? What kind of test? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #30

Whatever it is you are using to judge this public safety message ad campaign. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #36

And hell the anti gun people are proud of not knowing anything about that which they want to ban clffrdjk Apr 2014 #38

No I am not saying it SHOULD have depicted that....I am saying...if NO creative license VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #40

Ok one more time clffrdjk Apr 2014 #42

to convey a safety message perhaps? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #49

So how did showing a cartridge leaving the barrel clffrdjk Apr 2014 #50

because people unfamiliar with guns wouldn't know that perhaps? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #57

The target audience is not capable of using context clues? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #58

No the target audience might not know as much about individual weapons and ammunition...no VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #109

Look if you want me to walk you through the process of using context clues clffrdjk Apr 2014 #176

Maybe only a few saw that DashOneBravo Apr 2014 #59

the basic understanding you NEED is that GUNS KILL people.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #110

If the people that poster is attempting to reach are as oblivious about how guns work Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #108

So ONLY people who already have guns buy new ones? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #111

If I wanted to buy a gun I would assume Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #115

Like I said....if you want these Ads to be Literal....then they VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #117

"show things like an abusive husband shooting his abused wife" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #119

We are talking about THIS ad. That is ANTI gun.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #121

from a blog post by someone whose views on guns are probably closer to yours than mine gejohnston Apr 2014 #122

I HAVE been raped....AND no one ever told me to do those things... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #123

Didn't go to school in Colorado? gejohnston Apr 2014 #127

"Are you expecting EVERYONE to support gun ownership?" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #125

Funny how its only "stupid" to the gun "enthusiasts" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #129

Entire cartridges flying out of pistol muzzles is stupid. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #132

Creative License....ever heard of it? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #146

You have your blood lust, don't you? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #148

I am not the one that thinks more guns are the answer.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #150

Be honest. You want a blanket prohibition. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #157

you just inadvertently gave up the whole game.. SQUEE Apr 2014 #112

What? Uh no....not everyone who doesn't own a gun is "ignorant and fearful" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #113

none of mine have, SQUEE Apr 2014 #114

A bit of a tangent regarding the "my guns haven't killed anyone" catchphrase: Jgarrick Apr 2014 #116

Wow....just wow..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #120

how many Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #139

I am from South Carolina.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #141

Not yet..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #118

Really? Straw Man Apr 2014 #124

All of them lock their weapons? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #142

Yes. Lock all weapons ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #164

And who's to say you won't get drunk and slaughter a family of 4 in your car? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #133

or ban cars Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #138

Has your pea shooter been banned yet? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #144

I did not require a background check Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #152

but you DID have to take a test and YOU must renew...AND you MUST VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #154

lets see Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #160

because I don't drink VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #143

People who think entire cartridges come out of guns shouldn't lecture about "common sense." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #145

the person who did the artwork....is not the person creating the actual laws..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #147

Lemme guess, you also think rifles that only fire single shots are "military assault rifles." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #149

Frankly I don't care..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #151

I don't worship them either. i can count on my fingers the number of times I've been shooting Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #155

we do Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #153

Obviously we DON'T VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #156

just keep adding more Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #158

How many traffic laws do you think there are? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #159

the number of states and territories there are gejohnston Apr 2014 #161

Yes and much of the traffic laws you obey ARE States rules.....States also VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #162

No they don't gejohnston Apr 2014 #163

No it doesn't... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #165

Grossly misinformed? Straw Man Apr 2014 #166

Yes that IS exactly what I WAS talking about (as I recall I mentioned it first) VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #167

So you admit ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #169

I gave an essay, although incomplete, answer to a question gejohnston Apr 2014 #168

Six words for you: Cannabis legalization at the state level friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #175

I am FOR it at the FEDERAL Level.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #178

if you have to ask gejohnston Apr 2014 #182

Who accused someone of being racist? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #183

you accused me gejohnston Apr 2014 #185

I think a little reading for YOU is in order... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #184

here is my proof gejohnston Apr 2014 #186

Yes I know what it means..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #187

no, I didn't think you were aware gejohnston Apr 2014 #188

then you were also wrong not to..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #189

My 'test'??? SeattleVet Apr 2014 #62

There ya go. Proof that there's no gun violence in America! Scuba Apr 2014 #11

probably intentionally done that way jimmy the one Apr 2014 #12

It also speaks to the blatant disregard of truth and reality, as well as geckosfeet Apr 2014 #13

If you are going to use acronyms try and use them correctly clffrdjk Apr 2014 #20

you're fucking hilarious.... nothing as sick as laughing about something like this bowens43 Apr 2014 #15

Nope. Do you? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #16

no, but I do think that gejohnston Apr 2014 #17

What a disgusting post. SecularMotion Apr 2014 #18

If you believe that, then alert and take your chances with a jury. IronGate Apr 2014 #19

The jury on the OP was a 4-3 Leave petronius Apr 2014 #22

Thanks. IronGate Apr 2014 #23

"Disgusting" for pointing out the sheer ignorance of advocates of civilian disarmament? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #21

civilian disarmament? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #34

Safe act. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #35

Nice link! mikeysnot Apr 2014 #63

You said name a bill I did exactly as you asked. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #77

punt? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #81

Google too complex? Here you go clffrdjk Apr 2014 #88

Common courtesy to complex for you? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #98

Lol clffrdjk Apr 2014 #105

many of the bills sponsored by gejohnston Apr 2014 #54

Link, mikeysnot Apr 2014 #64

Given that I have a C&R FFL and have passed the background check to acquire a silencer, I think I'm Jgarrick Apr 2014 #67

I'm sorry where does it state civil disarmament? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #69

if the SAFE Act was so reasonable gejohnston Apr 2014 #72

Get a law degree mikeysnot Apr 2014 #73

that's not an answer gejohnston Apr 2014 #75

"Various police agencies already said they will not enforce it." mikeysnot Apr 2014 #83

Not doing their jobs gejohnston Apr 2014 #87

If the SAFE Act were to be passed in my state, I would be forced to dispose of most Jgarrick Apr 2014 #74

But but banning guns and forcing people to dispose of them is not disarmament!! clffrdjk Apr 2014 #78

Is this the provision that you are afraid of? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #86

Asking for a name of a bill because you don't think someone could possibly find one. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #89

Cry baby. mikeysnot Apr 2014 #96

Seriously? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #104

Song for your blues... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #200

Good luck with your BS dude... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #170

Stay classy "dude". (NT) blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #172

right back at ya! mikeysnot Apr 2014 #195

What discussion have I disrupted? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #177

So you are a true believer... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #196

I am busy what do you want? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #201

really? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #202

Was that supposed to make sense? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #203

Have someone explain it to you... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #205

Hey everybody, does anyone know what he is trying to get at? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #207

maybe one of your sycophantic gun nut supports could help you out here and laugh at your stupid Joke mikeysnot Apr 2014 #208

Rough day? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #210

no? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #212

do you know what an "assault weapon" is? gejohnston Apr 2014 #90

typical... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #97

here you go Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #95

Like this? Straw Man Apr 2014 #107

Sounds reasonable to me. mikeysnot Apr 2014 #179

Just where is the limit on reasonable? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #180

So then ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #181

Come on now. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #190

".357 rounds in a long barrel rifle" being too much firepower to entrust to an honest citizen, Jgarrick Apr 2014 #193

so registration = confiscation? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #82

Are you not familiar with the SAFE Act? Residents of NY are not allowed to keep previously Jgarrick Apr 2014 #84

Cry me a river... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #85

Yep no movement here clffrdjk Apr 2014 #91

You're a very good advocate for the 2A. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #92

Thank you! mikeysnot Apr 2014 #99

I agree. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #100

Be licensed and insured. mikeysnot Apr 2014 #101

Only if it is also required for voting and publishing as well. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #103

That's your opinion... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #171

So couple "well-regulated" with the part you forget -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #174

and yes, when that amendment was written mikeysnot Apr 2014 #194

"we had muskets... so sure carry all the muskets you want." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #197

oh the "moving the goal post" gun nut meme... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #198

"again... so tired no matter how many times you moved the goal post." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #204

and you always leave out the dot, dot dot well regulated part... mikeysnot Apr 2014 #206

Okay. My proposed regulation -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #209

add 10 round magazines to this and I am cool with it. mikeysnot Apr 2014 #211

10 rounds is not the most practical limit. Extensive military experience shows 30 rounds is optimal. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #213

30 rounds is for people with mikeysnot Apr 2014 #214

"30 rounds is for people with bad aim" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #215

Police not private citizens mikeysnot Apr 2014 #216

If 30 rounds is the sign of bad aim why are police issued 30-round magazines? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #217

Becasue they are part of the "Well regulated Militia" mikeysnot Apr 2014 #219

And people like *you* always leave out... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2014 #221

Ah, moving the Goal posts you are! mikeysnot May 2014 #240

That makes no sense. You're just reflexively bleating. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #222

cough "well regulated" cough mikeysnot Apr 2014 #223

What happened to the "militia" part you were so fond of and Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #227

Here you go, so you are on the same page as the rest of us... mikeysnot May 2014 #229

Your turn -- Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #232

Thanks for proving my point! mikeysnot May 2014 #233

They are not militia, they are police. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #234

Fail. mikeysnot May 2014 #235

No! You! Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #236

"Doubling down on EPIC fail mikeysnot May 2014 #238

The police are not the militia. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #242

Looks like it to me in the modern context mikeysnot May 2014 #244

Federal law has defined who is part of the militia; not your personal, self-serving silliness. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #250

What actions in Boston is it that you were against? Jenoch Apr 2014 #218

Where were you? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #225

The authorities in Atlanta had no idea where to search. Jenoch Apr 2014 #226

Really, huh... mikeysnot May 2014 #231

The police are a militia? Straw Man Apr 2014 #220

life must be hard for you...? mikeysnot Apr 2014 #224

I have no idea what you're talking about ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #228

Of course you don't know... mikeysnot May 2014 #230

I know that very well. Straw Man May 2014 #237

Way past that dude... mikeysnot May 2014 #239

So, dude ... Straw Man May 2014 #241

No I don't, but at least mikeysnot May 2014 #245

Responsible to the law? Straw Man May 2014 #246

Serve and protect... mikeysnot May 2014 #247

Exactly. Straw Man May 2014 #248

The police have no duty to protect the individual. oneshooter May 2014 #249

No, you're not... derby378 Apr 2014 #191

It is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about. mikeysnot Apr 2014 #199

So you *do* now acknowledge that the SAFE Act is a civilian disarmament measure? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #106

He has no choice but to do just that derby378 Apr 2014 #192

Not a mistake. Just the usual studied ignorance. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #24

Uhm yeah, because technical accuracy would help to better spread the message? Democracyinkind Apr 2014 #28

It's sad that... deathrind Apr 2014 #29

What simple common sense regulation/legislation is it promoting? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #31

Read for yourself. deathrind Apr 2014 #43

Well at least this time you got the right answer for what this add is promoting. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #48

What's wrong with promoting Republican power-mad billionaires on a liberal forum? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #93

Oh Jeezus gimme a frickin break tularetom Apr 2014 #33

I believe nit-picking about the technical accuracy is a tried and true way of derailing a thread. djean111 Apr 2014 #76

It is not possible that "nit-picking about the technical accuracy..." Jenoch Apr 2014 #79

I think so Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #39

Beat me to it. We really need a qualifying exam before we let people create new legislation. nt NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #45

and they never learn Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #46

Can I get it in pink, please? NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #52

Heretic! Jgarrick Apr 2014 #55

A: Yes ileus Apr 2014 #53

We have the technology. 65% more bullet, per bullet!!! NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #56

Reminds me of the guy who bought a house near a shooting range. Straw Man Apr 2014 #61

Maybe it's the new MIRV rifle! Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #71

best criticism from someone who hates the NRA and Ted Nugent gejohnston Apr 2014 #94

I want to carry around a bottle of the Ebola Virus, tiz my new hobby, OK with you folks? randys1 Apr 2014 #126

being absurd destroys your argument gejohnston Apr 2014 #128

You are consistent, wrong about absolutely everything. randys1 Apr 2014 #130

He seems to be doing fine do far. (NT) blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #134

name one thing I got wrong, gejohnston Apr 2014 #135

Your entire post is your rightwing opinions about guns and meaningless randys1 Apr 2014 #137

for example? gejohnston Apr 2014 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #136

How exactly are you going to use that bottle of Ebola to defend yourself? Bazinga Apr 2014 #173

Not to complecate things further, but SFangel May 2014 #243