Gun Control & RKBA

IronGate

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73. What risk?

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 08:51 PM

Apr 2014

Cops know that those that take the time and spend the money to get the CCW, the citizen isn't likely to draw down on them and engage them in a gunfight and most CCW'ers I know, and a lot of my collegues carry off duty, are lawful citizens who are extremely polite and do what they can to avoid a confrontation.
Cops are aware that it's not the lawful citizen they need to worry about, it's the criminal element who doesn't care about the CCW laws and will carry illegally and will more likely engage the police in a gunfight.

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Promoting gun ownership to women HockeyMom Apr 2014 #1

there was a time when gejohnston Apr 2014 #3

Wrong Lurks Often Apr 2014 #4

Having worked in both business and education HockeyMom Apr 2014 #54

This old white guy likes the new trend! Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #2

Who do you think they need to defend themselves against? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #5

seriously? gejohnston Apr 2014 #6

Nice of you to want them to be helpless victims Lurks Often Apr 2014 #7

"If I were a woman, surrounded by a population of gun toting guys, I'd definitely be armed" Jgarrick Apr 2014 #9

No! Advocate for increased accessibility? Are you kidding? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #14

In post #5 you said you would carry if you were a woman; apparently, you *do* wish to increase Jgarrick Apr 2014 #15

Nice try, but we both know that's not what I said. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #16

So you don't think that women in America are surrounded by gun toting guys, given that there are Jgarrick Apr 2014 #17

No, I don't. I think most women avoid those kinds of men. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #18

the most gun infested parts of the country gejohnston Apr 2014 #21

No particular state. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #27

don't buy it gejohnston Apr 2014 #31

I didn't really mention "civilized", except to describe the mentality of some who carry. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #33

I don't know why others don't gejohnston Apr 2014 #45

Well, I don't carry for exactly the same reasons Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #50

they also have a valid point gejohnston Apr 2014 #79

Everybody has a valid point. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #82

By what standard do you consider a state to be "gun infested"? Jgarrick Apr 2014 #22

See post 27 above Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #28

So a "gun infested" place could be a "whole country". Given that (per capita) the US has more guns Jgarrick Apr 2014 #34

You are fairly new around here and not familiar with my position Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #36

slight correction gejohnston Apr 2014 #44

Some good points there GE Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #46

few small children are shot by parents gejohnston Apr 2014 #47

True that, but off topic Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #52

" Having the Constitutional right is NOT good cause." Jenoch Apr 2014 #60

You presume that I side with King George. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #62

Your last paragraph describes me. Jenoch Apr 2014 #68

I agree with everything except this statement Packerowner740 Apr 2014 #19

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This message was self-deleted by its author gejohnston Apr 2014 #24

Better than 90% of rapists are unarmed, only 3% to 5% of them are armed with a gun. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #20

I t oes not upset me in the least. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #25

Why female instructors in particular? Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #8

See my post#4, additionally Lurks Often Apr 2014 #10

Good points all Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #11

Many female newcomers to shooting sports prefer female instructors.... S_B_Jackson Apr 2014 #12

Emily's instructor should have told her to keep her finger off the trigger until the sights are on Skeeter Barnes Apr 2014 #13

We have a former cop at our office, and he's constantly encouraging all women to buy a gun and Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #26

actually, most street cops gejohnston Apr 2014 #29

"actually, most street cops thinks armed citizens are a good thing." Riiiiiiight. Getting shot at Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #30

the average citizen are not going to shoot at them gejohnston Apr 2014 #32

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #63

ohhhhh awwww appeal to authority and condescending arrogance gejohnston Apr 2014 #78

Oh for Chrissakes. Forever posting the pro-NRA nutjobs as justification for wacko ideas!! Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #91

two ways to tell someone has no idea what they are talking about gejohnston Apr 2014 #98

"Here's a clue. People in general do not have the IQ of a pinhead." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #103

Yes, most street cops don't have a problem with the lawful citizen being armed, IronGate Apr 2014 #39

OMG. ROFL! Oh rats, I forgot I was in the gun forum where such ideas are sold in the Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #64

Believe what you will, IronGate Apr 2014 #65

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #67

In what capacity? IronGate Apr 2014 #69

I really don't know how that's going to make a difference. Do cops change their Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #70

Just asking. IronGate Apr 2014 #71

Hmmm... why on earth would they want to risk their lives more than they already risk them? Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #72

What risk? IronGate Apr 2014 #73

Either you discuss things like a grown up and stop pretending, or this conversation is over nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #74

Like a grown up? IronGate Apr 2014 #76

Sounds to me like she runs the cafeteria downstairs. oneshooter Apr 2014 #104

No doubt. IronGate Apr 2014 #105

Most cops I've talked to recommend citizen armament. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #86

I don't want to discuss inane assertions. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #90

Then why post on a "discussion board"? (NT) blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #94

You must've thought my last comment was directed at the op of this thread. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #95

"Assertion" to you, Reportage to me. It's not the biggest deal... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #99

Two anecdotes do not equal data Lurks Often Apr 2014 #35

Yeah! How dare a female come in here and pretend to know anything about guns? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #37

Thanks for the laugh Lurks Often Apr 2014 #38

You're welcome. Laughter is always the best medicine Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #40

Ah yes, the standard anti gun correlation between sex and firearms Lurks Often Apr 2014 #41

Actually, I don't project much. Neither am I in denial. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #48

The only one I see in denial is you Lurks Often Apr 2014 #51

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You go ahead and keep denying if it makes you feel better n/t Lurks Often Apr 2014 #85

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You just out there sniping, Straw Man Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #59

"I'm sure this feeds a lot of fetishes and fantasies pablo_marmol Apr 2014 #43

Note, I said "many", certainly not all. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #49

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Definitely not blinkered. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #58

You make sweeping generalizations ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #61

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How many is many for you? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #80

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