Gun Control & RKBA

NYC_SKP

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20. Yes, indeed.

Reply to DonP (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:49 PM

Apr 2014

What you said.

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Vermonters support concealed carry permit for guns [View all] SecularMotion Apr 2014 OP

Must be the wild west up there Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #1

True. Some of the lowest gun crime stats in the country. geckosfeet Apr 2014 #2

Gun control fans are desperate to point to some kind of "win" DonP Apr 2014 #5

CB has cartoons???? discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2014 #7

It's what passes for deep thinking down there DonP Apr 2014 #8

Yes, indeed. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #20

What is wrong with requiring a license for CC? nt Logical Apr 2014 #12

Why fix something that isn't broken? DonP Apr 2014 #13

I would rather know someone at least had some basic gun safety information and discuss.... Logical Apr 2014 #14

As a fellow New Englander (former 2nd generation Texan, Nutmegger by informed choice), I agree CTyankee Apr 2014 #9

Actually, the wild wild west wasn't gejohnston Apr 2014 #11

"gun safety regulation" is the more precise term, isn't it? CTyankee Apr 2014 #15

No it isn't any more than "death tax" gejohnston Apr 2014 #17

partial retraction gejohnston Apr 2014 #23

Huge crime rate, shoot-outs never stop. 'strue. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #3

I'm sure they're desperate to stop the carnage. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #4

Of course it is lower. Have you ever looked at VT demographics? CTyankee Apr 2014 #16

ummmmmmmm gejohnston Apr 2014 #18

Your party is the winner in that department, not mine. CTyankee Apr 2014 #24

digging yourself deeper? gejohnston Apr 2014 #28

Ah, you simply MUST send that little missive to my granddaughter whose bat mitzvah CTyankee Apr 2014 #30

and I'll share yours with my daughter's gejohnston Apr 2014 #32

You of course meant the democratic party...because that's what we all are here. ileus Apr 2014 #42

Oh, cute! CTyankee Apr 2014 #44

You mean support sarisataka Apr 2014 #48

If that is you, glad to hear it. I'd like to hear more from you, perhaps on non-gun-related topics CTyankee Apr 2014 #50

Who else would I be? sarisataka Apr 2014 #51

I'm already doing the best job possible. ileus Apr 2014 #49

"Vermonters support concealed carry permit for guns" Jenoch Apr 2014 #6

A classic case ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #10

I'm actually in favor of an in-depth instruction class Jenoch Apr 2014 #19

Vermont gundeath rate is pretty high. russ1943 Apr 2014 #21

Like Wyoming, gejohnston Apr 2014 #22

Interesting that you mentioned Norway, a nation of gun lovers. CTyankee Apr 2014 #25

I know exactly how the government regulates them there gejohnston Apr 2014 #27

and it is interesting that during WW2 the Norwegians fought the Nazis bravely, with their guns and CTyankee Apr 2014 #29

rifles on skies gejohnston Apr 2014 #31

You have kind of made my point. CTyankee Apr 2014 #33

not really gejohnston Apr 2014 #34

News flash! People in western European democracies go to the polls and elect their leaders! CTyankee Apr 2014 #35

even bigger news flash gejohnston Apr 2014 #52

well, it appears that Western European nations "grew up" with their thinking...the utter CTyankee May 2014 #58

You would think the first one would have gejohnston May 2014 #61

Yup. Why bother? CTyankee May 2014 #63

You are sure? Straw Man Apr 2014 #36

I guess there are some Norwegians who don't like the laws. CTyankee Apr 2014 #37

No points for the slur. Straw Man Apr 2014 #39

Well, Breivik's act DID happen, didn't it? CTyankee Apr 2014 #43

Which has fuck-all to do with average Norwegian gun owners. Straw Man Apr 2014 #45

well, this guy's act was significantly delayed due to the laws of his country...what have you got CTyankee Apr 2014 #47

So if Sandy Hook was delayed 2 years, that would reflect well on our gun laws? hack89 Apr 2014 #53

The point is that they were trying to keep it from happening in the first place. CTyankee May 2014 #55

So did CT - they had an AWB and registration. hack89 May 2014 #57

I have seen that NRA talking point! Right here during the debate on our state's gun laws. CTyankee May 2014 #59

So you concede the point hack89 May 2014 #60

It was already rebutted during debates on these bills... CTyankee May 2014 #62

So you can't articulate your own thoughts? hack89 May 2014 #64

I know you are dying to refute all of this with your playbook and all that but... CTyankee May 2014 #71

I support everything you mentioned hack89 May 2014 #76

Bloomberg doesn't do my thinking for me so I would have to say that I may support him but CTyankee May 2014 #77

I support limits on high capacity mags hack89 May 2014 #78

glad to hear you have evloved somewhat at least. CTyankee May 2014 #79

I have always held those positions hack89 May 2014 #84

The positions you stated are fine. No problem. My problem is with this strange "I don't agree with CTyankee May 2014 #85

Why can't I take it one issue at a time like you do? hack89 May 2014 #86

OK, here: because you always end up in the same place with these discussions. CTyankee May 2014 #88

I spend my time and money on more important issues hack89 May 2014 #89

"Significantly delayed?" Hallelujah! Straw Man Apr 2014 #54

Ah, yes. The Google yields lots of "tyranny of the majority" comments by the NRA so CTyankee May 2014 #56

Could you cite one? Straw Man May 2014 #65

Don't know how you missed the one written by none other than Dear Leader Wayne LaPierre. CTyankee May 2014 #70

Provide a link, please. Straw Man May 2014 #73

Hmm, what if one wanted to see the NRA's talking points and compare them to ones made here? CTyankee May 2014 #74

Gee, do you think putting "NRA" in your search terms ... Straw Man May 2014 #75

well, I wanted to see how the two "synched up." CTyankee May 2014 #81

Synchs up just as well with gay rights. Straw Man May 2014 #82

Hey, it's fine with me if you shinny up to that argument. I'd make it too, if I were in your shoes. CTyankee May 2014 #83

What shoes are those? Straw Man May 2014 #87

I want to say this to you nicely. CTyankee May 2014 #90

You can say it to me any way you want. Straw Man May 2014 #91

straw man contradictions jimmy the one May 2014 #93

Wrong again, Jimmy the Zero. Straw Man May 2014 #94

nra propagunda jimmy the one May 2014 #95

La Pierre quoting Tocqueville and Adams thinking it is Jefferson gejohnston May 2014 #96

backslap falls flat jimmy the one May 2014 #97

Adams not Jefferson gejohnston May 2014 #101

post script gejohnston May 2014 #104

Don't you get dizzy ... Straw Man May 2014 #98

prejudiced whackjobs jimmy the one May 2014 #100

Getting a bit venomous, are we? Straw Man May 2014 #102

straw man tells the whole half truth jimmy the one May 2014 #105

Clearly you don't understand the concept of protected rights. Straw Man May 2014 #106

"I have way above average intelligence" clffrdjk May 2014 #103

strawman not up to speed on anders jimmy the one May 2014 #66

Wrong and wrong. Straw Man May 2014 #72

But their murder rate is the second-lowest. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #26

Hmm. According a Kaiser family report, the rate is exactly 10.3 per 100,000 for Vermont. geckosfeet Apr 2014 #38

And how many are from violence? SQUEE Apr 2014 #40

True. Same for all others states in the study. geckosfeet Apr 2014 #46

There's rate and there's age adjusted rate. russ1943 May 2014 #68

Quick Lesson on vermont jimmy the one May 2014 #99

They must be having a bunch of problems with the law as it is now. ileus Apr 2014 #41

Or think some basic CC information is a good idea. nt Logical May 2014 #80

public did not support shall issue ccw jimmy the one May 2014 #67

This is not surprising to me, since no reputable poll I ever saw supported any states shall issue gejohnston May 2014 #69

It is a moot point after Heller and Peruta hack89 May 2014 #92