Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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115. I am sure it would never have gotten close to a confrontation, had he not been carrying.

Wed Apr 30, 2014, 01:18 AM

Apr 2014

I don't know him, nor do I claim to know how he or anyone else thinks. There is no evidence, and no rational reason to believe that any action would be different.
You base that on what? Assumptions and and ideology. The assumptions are based on lies made by propagandists, ideologues, race baiters, and fools. You can cling to their bullshit as truth if you want. Personally, I lost all respect for those who I did and now I simply despise the rest. Why? If it can happen to him, it can happen to either of us.

This case exemplifies the negative and socially destructive impact that carrying guns has on society.

Actually, it exemplifies life imitating art. The case exemplifies the dishonesty of the media, how low some some people will will destroy innocent lives for financial and political gain, and not all of those people are Republicans. I also realized that there is no difference between Mark Levin and Thom Hartman, both are dishonest ideologues who value truth only as long as it serves their purpose. You know what the real fucked up thing is? A moderate Democrat was smeared as being right wing and racist because he lives in Florida and had a CCW. He was prejudged as being a murderer and a racist, with no evidence, because of the color of his skin.

It turns otherwise law abiding citizens into assholes and killers.

Sorry, that isn't how the real world works. It doesn't turn anyone into an asshole. You either are or are not and there is no evidence that he was. He might be now given the trauma he experienced and the realization that believing in the integrity of the system is a bit naive. On the latter, being falsely accused of a crime does that to you. I learned that when I was about his age. Nothing that serious, and it didn't go to trial. It was just a long unpleasant conversation with the AFOSI.

And, at the end of the day, nobody is accountable.

Accountable for what, wearing the wrong dress? It is the same concept.

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Gunstalking Children [View all] stone space Apr 2014 OP

But he was just exercising his Constitutional right to be an asshole. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #1

while the guy was being an asshole gejohnston Apr 2014 #8

Yep! Probably gonna be more of that in Georgia's future. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #9

no more than before gejohnston Apr 2014 #12

It would be intersting to see someone trying to enter a CA courtroom armed. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #14

I don't remember where I read it gejohnston Apr 2014 #17

I think you are referring to Orange County CA's major Republican stronghold. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #23

Actually I was referring to Orange and LA counties gejohnston Apr 2014 #57

I am armed at all the srvices at my local "synagogue" SQUEE Apr 2014 #21

And I don't blame you, I would be too Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #25

thank you for understanding SQUEE Apr 2014 #27

Reminds me of a comment I heard from a CCW instructor when I lived in Utah. Bazinga Apr 2014 #33

He is a moron. Nt hack89 Apr 2014 #2

sounds like the guy was one of those idiots Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #3

Kind of like.... paleotn Apr 2014 #30

so you are down for Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #32

So predictable... paleotn Apr 2014 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #35

Go through the same rigorous training as law enforcement and then we'll talk Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #37

Therefore, the average Joe Blow.... paleotn Apr 2014 #44

Just what does post #30 have to do with concealed or open carry? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #38

Rude toters.... paleotn Apr 2014 #39

You are going to have to provide some evidence for that one. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #40

It's in front of your damn nose..... paleotn Apr 2014 #45

No sorry. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #48

And what exactly do you call.... paleotn Apr 2014 #49

Wait you're resting your case clffrdjk Apr 2014 #50

well of course that Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #51

If he would argue honestly for what he wanted clffrdjk Apr 2014 #52

Two issues here....... paleotn Apr 2014 #53

Hey I gave you the choice of topics, let's try and finish that one first. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #54

Wow DashOneBravo Apr 2014 #92

So assuming I have training sarisataka Apr 2014 #46

If you meet standards far above those.... paleotn Apr 2014 #47

Interestingly, I do. sarisataka Apr 2014 #60

Shocked to see you posted this! nt Logical Apr 2014 #58

Gunstalking children???? A bit much don't you think. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #4

Gunstalking children may be perfectly legal in some places, but there is plenty wrong with it. stone space Apr 2014 #6

Ok if you are going to continue to use that clffrdjk Apr 2014 #7

Yes, must be the parents fault. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #11

So you think clffrdjk Apr 2014 #13

Now why would a caring parent want to protect her kid from a stranger with a gun? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #16

I am not defending him. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #19

Maybe they think carrying a gun is idiotic. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #24

So you want to see more events like this? You think this was a good thing? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #29

Absolutely! How else is the general population going to know? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #61

I have been entirely honest. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #62

No, carrying a gun for no good reason is sick. Admitting that would be honest. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #63

Back on to honesty eh clffrdjk Apr 2014 #64

No, I don't think it was a "good thing" Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #66

Liar liar clffrdjk Apr 2014 #68

Sorry, but we don't call each other liars around here Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #69

Sorry but what should I have called you? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #71

I think my position is clear. Where am I lying? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #73

Ok here I will spell it out even more clffrdjk Apr 2014 #74

Some slick parsing there Clifford. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #75

There was no parsing, there was no taking anything out of context. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #88

You leave out the very real cure. Nobody carries guns! upaloopa Apr 2014 #80

Of course, that is the best solution. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #86

I was born in 1946. My dad had returned from the upaloopa Apr 2014 #87

I hope you are right and I hope we get to see it. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #103

I have asked you a couple of times now clffrdjk Apr 2014 #94

Do you not follow the news? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #101

So no. clffrdjk Apr 2014 #102

Who gives a fuck whether it is legal or not? It's a stupid thing to do. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #104

Where are you going with this? clffrdjk Apr 2014 #105

OK, you've made your position clear Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #110

Lawyers speak for their clients, not themselves gejohnston Apr 2014 #107

I use the word fascist in it's literal sense.s derived from the Italian word "fascio" Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #111

that would apply to gejohnston Apr 2014 #113

I have no interest in Bloomberg or gun control Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #114

I am sure it would never have gotten close to a confrontation, had he not been carrying. gejohnston Apr 2014 #115

There is no rational reason to think that any action would be different? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #116

based on what evidence? gejohnston Apr 2014 #117

Wrong! The court proved nothing. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #118

in rare cases, yes gejohnston Apr 2014 #119

You have as much right to know of I'm armed.. Bazinga Apr 2014 #65

If you carry a gun that is only deadly within 10-15 feet, then I would agree. Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #67

I'm all for holding people responsible for every bullet that exits a muzzle. Bazinga Apr 2014 #70

Hardly authoritarian Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #72

by definition gejohnston Apr 2014 #108

Hardly, my friend Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #112

"Walking around with his gun hanging out" Packerowner740 Apr 2014 #84

I thought he was prancing? gejohnston Apr 2014 #85

Looks like this idiot's repeated gunstalking has managed to empty a normally full park. stone space Apr 2014 #5

Right to carry demonstrators. rrneck Apr 2014 #10

You warrant an A+... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2014 #15

Oh, bravo! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2014 #18

Accurate description n/t sarisataka Apr 2014 #20

. SQUEE Apr 2014 #22

you are correct Duckhunter935 Apr 2014 #26

+1000 Logical Apr 2014 #59

Absolutely. Common Sense Party Apr 2014 #78

LOL! Politicalboi Apr 2014 #28

Exacty...... paleotn Apr 2014 #31

Exactly. Straw Man Apr 2014 #77

If true both are fucked up! upaloopa Apr 2014 #81

Would you like to comment ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #82

I just did upaloopa Apr 2014 #83

Well that's certainly a reasoned ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #89

I don't need to play gunner debate games on this board upaloopa Apr 2014 #90

Then what are you doing here? Straw Man Apr 2014 #91

look in the mirror and read your post upaloopa Apr 2014 #93

I'm merely responding in kind. Straw Man Apr 2014 #95

There is nothing more than can be said upaloopa Apr 2014 #96

You've got it all wrong. Straw Man Apr 2014 #97

My position is not extreme upaloopa Apr 2014 #98

I beg to differ. Straw Man Apr 2014 #99

You are Rip Van Winkle? upaloopa Apr 2014 #100

If you're referring to Heller and MacDonald ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #106

Dude, SYG started in Califoria gejohnston Apr 2014 #109

Yes, your position is extreme. beevul Apr 2014 #120

In your paradigm maybe upaloopa Apr 2014 #121

You're almost there. You're sounding just like Anakin Skywalker... beevul May 2014 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author beevul May 2014 #123

Did he have a kid at the game? If not he really didn't need to be there anyway. ileus Apr 2014 #36

Occam's Razor blueridge3210 Apr 2014 #41

Agreed clffrdjk Apr 2014 #43

re: False flag, please do continue Electric Monk Apr 2014 #42

Wow- this guy really felt the need... deathrind Apr 2014 #55

Actually, this has nothing to do with the "newly expanded" gejohnston Apr 2014 #56

No, he wasn't "just being an asshole". Assholes are a dime a dozen. stone space May 2014 #124

Jackass and the Gunstalk Blue Owl Apr 2014 #76

This going to happen more and more. upaloopa Apr 2014 #79