Gun Control & RKBA

Botany

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19. The best arguments for the RKBA group involve logic and facts.

Mon May 26, 2014, 02:39 PM

May 2014

R you serious?

U.S. Has More Guns – And Gun Deaths – Than Any Other Country, Study Finds

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/09/19/u-s-has-more-guns-and-gun-deaths-than-any-other-country-study-finds/

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My support for gun ownership rights is not universal and unqualified. [View all] Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 OP

You have no shame Botany May 2014 #1

Firearms can also save lives. ... spin May 2014 #3

"I might be here to post this had she not been armed." Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #6

I seriously doubt that even the most ardent gun control advocates ... spin May 2014 #11

talking point #2, very good Duckhunter935 May 2014 #4

Very interesting document. ... spin May 2014 #9

what I find interesting Duckhunter935 May 2014 #10

The best arguments for the RKBA group involve logic and facts. Botany May 2014 #19

What about nations that have stricter gun laws/fewer guns but higher homicide rates? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #30

Which countries are those? yurbud May 2014 #65

Brazil, Bermuda, Greenland, Mexico gejohnston May 2014 #68

a couple of those countries have other problems like weak law enforcement and extreme poverty yurbud May 2014 #69

The problems we have the Western Europe doesn't gejohnston May 2014 #70

Of course we have more gun deaths. ... spin May 2014 #33

Logical fallacy. pablo_marmol May 2014 #37

Spare us your faux grief. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #5

To deny that the proliferation of guns in America is not connected to a proliferation .... Botany May 2014 #8

"guns in America is not connected to a proliferation in gun deaths and tragedies is to deny reality. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #13

The reality is that despite the skyrocketing sale of firearms in recent years ... spin May 2014 #15

Says you. An internet "sage" completely without credentials. pablo_marmol May 2014 #38

you must be more outraged by drunk driving deaths Duckhunter935 May 2014 #7

Way to change the subject! Botany May 2014 #12

he also legally purchased a knife Duckhunter935 May 2014 #14

Either you care about lives or you don't? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #17

You lot don't want "cold hard facts and figures". beevul May 2014 #18

cold hard facts AND FIGURES Botany May 2014 #20

Yeah, i didn't think you wanted to talk about the figures. beevul May 2014 #21

FIGURES Botany May 2014 #22

That doesn't make your case that "its the guns". beevul May 2014 #23

MORE GUNS PER CAPITA = MORE GUN DEATHS Botany May 2014 #24

We aren't those places, and we aren't going to be those places. beevul May 2014 #25

In 2012 there are listed... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #29

Iceland has more guns per capita than gejohnston May 2014 #31

Murder rate, United States: 4.8/100k/year. Japan 0.3/100k/year AtheistCrusader May 2014 #51

In Japan... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #52

That's a good point. Reporting rules between different nations is highly vexing. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #53

So true. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #54

actually, it is gejohnston May 2014 #55

It apparently takes a bit longer than... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #59

You can say that as often as you like - it's still a fallacy. pablo_marmol May 2014 #39

"You have no shame." Eleanors38 May 2014 #35

I have noticed Duckhunter935 May 2014 #2

I comment regularly on the projection SQUEE May 2014 #16

I see what you did there. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #27

Thanks for the insight into a gunner paradigm upaloopa May 2014 #26

Arguing facts -- if the anti-RKBA ever supplies them rather than hollow emotionalism -- Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #28

Too bad you earned it upaloopa May 2014 #40

"It is going to get worse." Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #41

I'm not going to play your game. upaloopa May 2014 #42

You declare things will get worse but when asked how you claim I'm playing the game. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #43

Don't you ever fucking tell me what to do! upaloopa May 2014 #44

Or? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #45

What letter do they send out to those hurt by drugs and alcohol? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #46

Sick! upaloopa May 2014 #47

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #48

You take it any way you want upaloopa May 2014 #49

But yours does? beevul May 2014 #57

"Your opinion doesn't matter in the great circle of things" Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #58

I had to post this to you since NU is locked out. bravenak May 2014 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 May 2014 #66

If the now dead roommates had notified your department that they think their Jenoch May 2014 #50

I am not part of the clinical or program staff upaloopa May 2014 #56

appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy gejohnston May 2014 #32

Well they are regressives.... ileus May 2014 #34

I wonder if the 5 run over during SXSW rate on the Compassion Scale? Eleanors38 May 2014 #36

What laws would you suggest to take care of this problem? stone space May 2014 #60

Nawww gejohnston May 2014 #61

Please present your proposed amendment for discussion. stone space May 2014 #62

I can think of two interested parties who would welcome Jenoch May 2014 #63

"They are paranoid delusional, authoritarian, violent-minded, hateful towards opposing facts" mokawanis May 2014 #64