Gun Control & RKBA

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)

44. Don't you ever fucking tell me what to do!

Tue May 27, 2014, 11:19 AM

May 2014

Read this from my inbox this morning

A note to the County of Santa Barbara family...

Words cannot express our sadness over the events of Friday night. I know all in the County family join with me in offering our assistance to those impacted and stand ready and willing to support the healing of the friends and families of those killed and injured in Isla Vista. All should be proud of the County family and your work over the last several days to ensure support to our community members and fellow employees. The incredible outpouring of support and the willingness to jump in to do whatever necessary was inspiring.

I am thankful for the extraordinary and heroic actions of law enforcement officers to stop the violence, medical responders providing treatment to the injured and our mental health professionals working throughout the community to provide much needed support to all impacted.

The incident touches the County family in many ways and many of you may have a personal connection to those killed or injured. Therefore, I wanted all to be aware that counseling services are available at 805-893-4411. This line is staffed by many our own staff as well as community volunteers. In addition, a number has been set up to address general community questions at 805-893-3901. I will make all aware as additional resources may become available. Please know that I am also available to you to address your questions or concerns. Never hesitate to reach out to me, any member of my office, or your department head if anything is needed.

While joined in sorrow over these tragic events, we stand committed to the healing of the community of Isla Vista and all we serve.

Mona

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My support for gun ownership rights is not universal and unqualified. [View all] Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 OP

You have no shame Botany May 2014 #1

Firearms can also save lives. ... spin May 2014 #3

"I might be here to post this had she not been armed." Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #6

I seriously doubt that even the most ardent gun control advocates ... spin May 2014 #11

talking point #2, very good Duckhunter935 May 2014 #4

Very interesting document. ... spin May 2014 #9

what I find interesting Duckhunter935 May 2014 #10

The best arguments for the RKBA group involve logic and facts. Botany May 2014 #19

What about nations that have stricter gun laws/fewer guns but higher homicide rates? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #30

Which countries are those? yurbud May 2014 #65

Brazil, Bermuda, Greenland, Mexico gejohnston May 2014 #68

a couple of those countries have other problems like weak law enforcement and extreme poverty yurbud May 2014 #69

The problems we have the Western Europe doesn't gejohnston May 2014 #70

Of course we have more gun deaths. ... spin May 2014 #33

Logical fallacy. pablo_marmol May 2014 #37

Spare us your faux grief. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #5

To deny that the proliferation of guns in America is not connected to a proliferation .... Botany May 2014 #8

"guns in America is not connected to a proliferation in gun deaths and tragedies is to deny reality. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #13

The reality is that despite the skyrocketing sale of firearms in recent years ... spin May 2014 #15

Says you. An internet "sage" completely without credentials. pablo_marmol May 2014 #38

you must be more outraged by drunk driving deaths Duckhunter935 May 2014 #7

Way to change the subject! Botany May 2014 #12

he also legally purchased a knife Duckhunter935 May 2014 #14

Either you care about lives or you don't? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #17

You lot don't want "cold hard facts and figures". beevul May 2014 #18

cold hard facts AND FIGURES Botany May 2014 #20

Yeah, i didn't think you wanted to talk about the figures. beevul May 2014 #21

FIGURES Botany May 2014 #22

That doesn't make your case that "its the guns". beevul May 2014 #23

MORE GUNS PER CAPITA = MORE GUN DEATHS Botany May 2014 #24

We aren't those places, and we aren't going to be those places. beevul May 2014 #25

In 2012 there are listed... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #29

Iceland has more guns per capita than gejohnston May 2014 #31

Murder rate, United States: 4.8/100k/year. Japan 0.3/100k/year AtheistCrusader May 2014 #51

In Japan... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #52

That's a good point. Reporting rules between different nations is highly vexing. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #53

So true. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #54

actually, it is gejohnston May 2014 #55

It apparently takes a bit longer than... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2014 #59

You can say that as often as you like - it's still a fallacy. pablo_marmol May 2014 #39

"You have no shame." Eleanors38 May 2014 #35

I have noticed Duckhunter935 May 2014 #2

I comment regularly on the projection SQUEE May 2014 #16

I see what you did there. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #27

Thanks for the insight into a gunner paradigm upaloopa May 2014 #26

Arguing facts -- if the anti-RKBA ever supplies them rather than hollow emotionalism -- Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #28

Too bad you earned it upaloopa May 2014 #40

"It is going to get worse." Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #41

I'm not going to play your game. upaloopa May 2014 #42

You declare things will get worse but when asked how you claim I'm playing the game. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #43

Don't you ever fucking tell me what to do! upaloopa May 2014 #44

Or? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #45

What letter do they send out to those hurt by drugs and alcohol? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #46

Sick! upaloopa May 2014 #47

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #48

You take it any way you want upaloopa May 2014 #49

But yours does? beevul May 2014 #57

"Your opinion doesn't matter in the great circle of things" Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #58

I had to post this to you since NU is locked out. bravenak May 2014 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 May 2014 #66

If the now dead roommates had notified your department that they think their Jenoch May 2014 #50

I am not part of the clinical or program staff upaloopa May 2014 #56

appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy gejohnston May 2014 #32

Well they are regressives.... ileus May 2014 #34

I wonder if the 5 run over during SXSW rate on the Compassion Scale? Eleanors38 May 2014 #36

What laws would you suggest to take care of this problem? stone space May 2014 #60

Nawww gejohnston May 2014 #61

Please present your proposed amendment for discussion. stone space May 2014 #62

I can think of two interested parties who would welcome Jenoch May 2014 #63

"They are paranoid delusional, authoritarian, violent-minded, hateful towards opposing facts" mokawanis May 2014 #64