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[sarisataka]

32. Nice words...

I am not in favor of gun grabbing. Rather I think that gun owners should work with those trying to reduce gun violence.

Good, many of us try but get lumped in and judged with the most extreme examples of gun owners

I agree people have a right to protect themselves. I concede to concealed carry and the presence of guns in the home and vehicles.

Thank you- not all accept that a person should protect themselves

I think businesses have a right to restrict the carrying of guns on their property.

Absolutely

I think governments have a right to restrict the carrying of guns on public property.

In similar measure and degree other rights are limited, yes. Unfortunately some government bodies try to define it so guns are never allowed on public property; and even highly restricted in private. This is as much a violation as a law that would require three people gathering to converse needing a permit.

I think there are valid reasons to restrict the ownership of certain guns and related items.

Agreed. We likely differ as to what guns and items, but there is no blanket right to own every possible weapon.

I think a compromise can be had as long as we throw out the extremes on both sides.

Yes, the gulf seems wide because the extremes monopolize the monologues (discussions are few and far between)

If as is the case now, gunners demand that only their point of view should become the status quo, I am in favor of making pariahs of them.

This attitude, as seen here, http://www.democraticunderground.com/12626583 , is what will prevent the discussion, compromise, and most importantly, effective gun control from becoming reality. Despite talking of coming together and throwing out extremes, you are considering all gun owners to be extremes, hence you never find the moderate majority. Slowly those of the edge of that group move toward the extreme pro-gun side because they see no benefit in rapport. No matter what their stance is or how much they abhor gun violence, they are classed the same as rabid right-wing gun nuts and mass murderers.