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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
55. can't dispute the scholarship, attack the person.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jun 2014

really classy.

Huh? another non sequitur? another false dilemma? another logic fallacy from Johnston?
Where is your explanation of what the 40% 'Saturday night special' is? You've done nothing but accomplish a trifecta: tapdancing, smoke & mirrors, & double double talk talk, all emanating from one thread.
No, you said the time to crime was bullshit, I proved my claim. You have proven nothing other than your very verbose double talk. Unless your reading comprehension is very poor, you know that as well as I do.

Furthermore, the ATF demonstrates what I said was spot on, for of the 891 firearm traces it lists on pg 7 of what you linked to, 488 of them were from neighboring states of Virginia & Md, just like I said, the rest evidently from all the other states combined.
What exactly was your link to the ATF supposed to prove? don't just link to a website as a rebuttal & expect everyone to realize wtf you're referring to, thanks.
I never said they didn't. What I did say was that the time to crime supported my theft theory than your straw purchase/violating the Gun Control Act theory. One more thing, if they are buying the guns in Virginia, why aren't they committing the crimes there?

Oh vomit, & you cite a far right gunnut guru to claim that burger (my signature line at bottom) was spouting nonsense? From YOU, who generally admonishes a left wing source but has no problem citing a far right one? Hilarious, sad at the same time.

A taste of the specious fractured reasoning from gunnut kopel:
kopel: ... Justice Burger then stated that today, "sadly, we have no choice but to maintain a standing national army while still maintaining a 'militia' by way of the National Guard..." Here, Justice Burger's reasoning stumbled. First of all, the National Guard is plainly not the "militia" envisioned by the Second Amendment.

Duh, burger never said the national gds was the 2ndA's envisioned militia, & burger definitely knows that it isn't, kopel is a sanctimonious casuistic clown.
But to wit, kopel, the national guards is indeed a militia, as defined in the Charles dick militia act of 1903; in fact nat gds is the only 'well regulated militia' in existence in America today (plus state guards which are patterned after national gds), so what burger said makes sense unless one tries to twist it out of shape as kopel did..

kopel: More fundamentally, the National Guard is a uniformed, elite force. A "select militia" was precisely what the authors of the Second Amendment intended to avoid; they instead wanted a militia made up of all able-bodied males.

Here the grand gunnut kopel attempts to make it seem that justice burger was unaware of all the simple pie he spits out in kopel's 'refutal', when it's just a pathetic attempt from kopel to denigrate burger & what he said & meant, whether to parade magazine or playboy wouldn't have mattered, it's what he said not who he said it to.
Instead of countering the scholarship, all you have is a personal attack of what you think Kopel's happens to be. That is the lowest logical fallacy of all. Well regulated means well equipped. It is also can become a branch of the federal government anytime the POTUS wants it to be, therefore it is not a state militia. That is the only point you have, and it is only half way valid.
Where Burger said it doesn't matter as much as where Burger never said it, that was Kopel's point, and you know that unless you flunked the 8th grade five times.

So, your derailing is to personally attack on me for something that was basically accurate shows desperation, like the lies exposed in the OP by even CNN.
Wow! You'd almost think somebody (Bloomberg) is trying to "sell fear"? N/T DonP Jun 2014 #1
It's not just Bloomberg. From another DU group, story about using the PTA to leverage lies: NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #61
The second comment has been on my mind lately DonP Jun 2014 #62
Wow! 15 out of 74, you'd think someone is trying to minimize the slaughter! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #2
+1 villager Jun 2014 #3
all public policy should be based on gejohnston Jun 2014 #8
Well we know that cold, dead steel has long informed your posts here. villager Jun 2014 #12
no, one side is trying to create numbers gejohnston Jun 2014 #10
stop creating numbers, johnston advises, HA! jimmy the one Jun 2014 #31
sorry, you disproved nothing gejohnston Jun 2014 #33
tired of this tapdance jimmy the one Jun 2014 #35
if you are tired of tap dancing, gejohnston Jun 2014 #36
utter nonsense jimmy the one Jun 2014 #37
clap trap? gejohnston Jun 2014 #39
J's hat trick jimmy the one Jun 2014 #54
can't dispute the scholarship, attack the person. gejohnston Jun 2014 #55
more guns more lies jimmy the one Jun 2014 #56
you lose another round. gejohnston Jun 2014 #57
GE, I'd like to point out... beevul Jun 2014 #60
please learn how to read jimmy the one Jun 2014 #58
Your sig were not Burger's words gejohnston Jun 2014 #59
I wonder when blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #4
What am I missing here? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #6
Only 1 in 5 (15 of 74) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #17
OK, so that makes it 15 Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #18
Why the need to lie about the numbers? hack89 Jun 2014 #22
Nothing above Zero is "acceptable". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #23
OK, valid point. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #27
the difference is gejohnston Jun 2014 #32
Kobiyashi Maru. If the rules don't fit your goal, change them. flamin lib Jun 2014 #26
Is the Oregon shooting "mass shooting?" Saw it described that way Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #47
Woudn't seem to fit the description of a "mass shooting". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #48
Very sad. Do you have a comment? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #5
I think Bloomberg is an authoritarian sack of shit hack89 Jun 2014 #7
LaPierre is sooooooooo much more honorable!!!1!11! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #9
If you want support Republican billionaires, knock yourself out. hack89 Jun 2014 #11
Oh, and Larry Pratt too!1!1!1!!!! flamin lib Jun 2014 #13
Larry Pratt is an asshole - just like Bloomberg nt. hack89 Jun 2014 #15
I'm sure you never shop at Walmart Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #21
There would be no "public safety" movement without Bloomberg and his money. hack89 Jun 2014 #24
I have no interest in Bloomberg, his politics or his wealth. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #25
Yet supporting gun rights = supporting Wayne LaPierre? hack89 Jun 2014 #28
I have no idea what you mean. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #29
Don't be obtuse hack89 Jun 2014 #30
Yeah, well it's still a misnomer. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #38
Civil right is the proper term. I will start using it instead hack89 Jun 2014 #43
I consider self defense to be a basic human right. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #44
Please, don't be concerned with upsetting me. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #45
consider this gejohnston Jun 2014 #40
OK, point taken Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #41
funny you should mention him gejohnston Jun 2014 #42
I think he is kind of stupid gejohnston Jun 2014 #14
Don't forget Alex Jones!1!!!1! He speaks for YOU!1!!!1! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #16
More exclamation points! blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #19
!!1!1!!1!1!1!!!!!1!1!1!!!1!1!1! flamin lib Jun 2014 #20
no lie, but a bit misleading I suppose jimmy the one Jun 2014 #34
Never let the truth get in the way of an regressive agenda ileus Jun 2014 #46
Redefining 'school shootings' so they don’t count Electric Monk Jun 2014 #50
It isn't redefining anything gejohnston Jun 2014 #51
Also, if the gun control lobby can't be honest about this, why should they be believed when it come blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #52
The lying has already begun in the mainstrean news Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #53
johnston asks me to disprove 'his' claim jimmy the one Jun 2014 #63
not really gejohnston Jun 2014 #66
guns & the holocaust jimmy the one Jun 2014 #71
I didn't say the 1938 law didn't loosen laws gejohnston Jun 2014 #72
the myth of nazi gun control jimmy the one Jun 2014 #73
I didn't say the guncite undercut your thesis. gejohnston Jun 2014 #74
fish mongering jimmy the one Jun 2014 #76
you picked a unsourced claim? gejohnston Jun 2014 #79
chicago, LA, NYC, DC, NOT LIBERAL CITIES?????? jimmy the one Jun 2014 #64
it uses voting patterns as the only definition gejohnston Jun 2014 #65
on liberal cities jimmy the one Jun 2014 #75
cheesy hoc ergo moony hoc jimmy the one Jun 2014 #77
national gds, state militia jimmy the one Jun 2014 #78
You created a new fallacy? gejohnston Jun 2014 #80
Professional gun restrictionists are liars. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #49
15 or 74 mwrguy Jun 2014 #67
Groups that lie or distort will not (and should not) have much influence hack89 Jun 2014 #68
Yet when one misrepresents such a basic fact to such a large degree blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #69
Do you hold the same standards with swimming pool deaths, or traffic deaths? oneshooter Jun 2014 #70
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