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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
59. Your sig were not Burger's words
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jun 2014

Some gun control group put those words in his mouth.
You completely ignored the main point of Kopel's, who is a registered Democrat and voted for Ralph Nader, critique of your favorite Nixon appointee.

BTW, none of these are "liberal cities". They might have a mayor with a D by his name, but I wouldn't describe them as liberal. They are violent, corrupt, mismanaged, but not liberal.
the cities I listed specifically were Chicago, Oakland, NOLA, DC. I did not mention LA nor NY. By pointing out their corruption and mismanagement makes me a bad Democrat? Does that also mean calling James Buchannan a lousy president homophobic? Historians agree that he sucked as president.
When mayors of Detroit and NOLA are convicted of corruption and ripping off the city treasury, not to mention Chicago's well documented gang/alderman machine reminiscent of Boss Tweed, it is not bashing. It is speaking truth to power. I don't care what letter is by the mayor's name or who most of the people vote for. A shithole is a shithole and a crook is a crook. Only the stupidest and most dishonest ideologues would disagree. Yet another pointless personal attack.

Did you actually read Burger's article? He did not write those words in Parade magazine. Here is a quote:

Americans also have a right to defend their homes, and we need not challenge that. Nor does anyone seriously question that the Constitution protects the right of hunters to own and keep sporting guns for hunting game any more than anyone would challenge the right to own and keep fishing rods and other equipment for fishing -- or to own automobiles. To "keep and bear arms" for hunting today is essentially a recreational activity and not an imperative of survival, as it was 200 years ago; "Saturday night specials" and machine guns are not recreational weapons and surely are as much in need of regulation as motor vehicles.
Basically, he agreed with Heller. Machine guns need as much regulation as motor vehicles? A chief justice was not aware handguns are regulated on the federal level more than automobiles? That machine guns were then, and still are, even more regulated than either one? He didn't know about the NFA? He was on the court when the GCA was passed, he should know better. Car ownership is not regulated, only their operation on public roads is.

Americans should ask themselves a few questions. The Constitution does not mention automobiles or motorboats, but the right to keep and own an automobile is beyond question; equally beyond question is the power of the state to regulate the purchase or the transfer of such a vehicle and the right to license the vehicle and the driver with reasonable standards. In some places, even a bicycle must be registered, as must some household dogs.
Registration of cars, bikes, and dogs are simply a means for county and city governments to collect revenue, and no other reason. Dogs require proof of rabies shots, but that's it. The purpose has nothing to do with public safety. Apples and oranges.
Please, learn to read with comprehension. After you do that, reread Kopel's critique. It does not say what you think it does.
Wow! You'd almost think somebody (Bloomberg) is trying to "sell fear"? N/T DonP Jun 2014 #1
It's not just Bloomberg. From another DU group, story about using the PTA to leverage lies: NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #61
The second comment has been on my mind lately DonP Jun 2014 #62
Wow! 15 out of 74, you'd think someone is trying to minimize the slaughter! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #2
+1 villager Jun 2014 #3
all public policy should be based on gejohnston Jun 2014 #8
Well we know that cold, dead steel has long informed your posts here. villager Jun 2014 #12
no, one side is trying to create numbers gejohnston Jun 2014 #10
stop creating numbers, johnston advises, HA! jimmy the one Jun 2014 #31
sorry, you disproved nothing gejohnston Jun 2014 #33
tired of this tapdance jimmy the one Jun 2014 #35
if you are tired of tap dancing, gejohnston Jun 2014 #36
utter nonsense jimmy the one Jun 2014 #37
clap trap? gejohnston Jun 2014 #39
J's hat trick jimmy the one Jun 2014 #54
can't dispute the scholarship, attack the person. gejohnston Jun 2014 #55
more guns more lies jimmy the one Jun 2014 #56
you lose another round. gejohnston Jun 2014 #57
GE, I'd like to point out... beevul Jun 2014 #60
please learn how to read jimmy the one Jun 2014 #58
Your sig were not Burger's words gejohnston Jun 2014 #59
I wonder when blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #4
What am I missing here? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #6
Only 1 in 5 (15 of 74) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #17
OK, so that makes it 15 Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #18
Why the need to lie about the numbers? hack89 Jun 2014 #22
Nothing above Zero is "acceptable". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #23
OK, valid point. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #27
the difference is gejohnston Jun 2014 #32
Kobiyashi Maru. If the rules don't fit your goal, change them. flamin lib Jun 2014 #26
Is the Oregon shooting "mass shooting?" Saw it described that way Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #47
Woudn't seem to fit the description of a "mass shooting". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #48
Very sad. Do you have a comment? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #5
I think Bloomberg is an authoritarian sack of shit hack89 Jun 2014 #7
LaPierre is sooooooooo much more honorable!!!1!11! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #9
If you want support Republican billionaires, knock yourself out. hack89 Jun 2014 #11
Oh, and Larry Pratt too!1!1!1!!!! flamin lib Jun 2014 #13
Larry Pratt is an asshole - just like Bloomberg nt. hack89 Jun 2014 #15
I'm sure you never shop at Walmart Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #21
There would be no "public safety" movement without Bloomberg and his money. hack89 Jun 2014 #24
I have no interest in Bloomberg, his politics or his wealth. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #25
Yet supporting gun rights = supporting Wayne LaPierre? hack89 Jun 2014 #28
I have no idea what you mean. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #29
Don't be obtuse hack89 Jun 2014 #30
Yeah, well it's still a misnomer. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #38
Civil right is the proper term. I will start using it instead hack89 Jun 2014 #43
I consider self defense to be a basic human right. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #44
Please, don't be concerned with upsetting me. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #45
consider this gejohnston Jun 2014 #40
OK, point taken Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #41
funny you should mention him gejohnston Jun 2014 #42
I think he is kind of stupid gejohnston Jun 2014 #14
Don't forget Alex Jones!1!!!1! He speaks for YOU!1!!!1! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #16
More exclamation points! blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #19
!!1!1!!1!1!1!!!!!1!1!1!!!1!1!1! flamin lib Jun 2014 #20
no lie, but a bit misleading I suppose jimmy the one Jun 2014 #34
Never let the truth get in the way of an regressive agenda ileus Jun 2014 #46
Redefining 'school shootings' so they don’t count Electric Monk Jun 2014 #50
It isn't redefining anything gejohnston Jun 2014 #51
Also, if the gun control lobby can't be honest about this, why should they be believed when it come blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #52
The lying has already begun in the mainstrean news Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #53
johnston asks me to disprove 'his' claim jimmy the one Jun 2014 #63
not really gejohnston Jun 2014 #66
guns & the holocaust jimmy the one Jun 2014 #71
I didn't say the 1938 law didn't loosen laws gejohnston Jun 2014 #72
the myth of nazi gun control jimmy the one Jun 2014 #73
I didn't say the guncite undercut your thesis. gejohnston Jun 2014 #74
fish mongering jimmy the one Jun 2014 #76
you picked a unsourced claim? gejohnston Jun 2014 #79
chicago, LA, NYC, DC, NOT LIBERAL CITIES?????? jimmy the one Jun 2014 #64
it uses voting patterns as the only definition gejohnston Jun 2014 #65
on liberal cities jimmy the one Jun 2014 #75
cheesy hoc ergo moony hoc jimmy the one Jun 2014 #77
national gds, state militia jimmy the one Jun 2014 #78
You created a new fallacy? gejohnston Jun 2014 #80
Professional gun restrictionists are liars. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #49
15 or 74 mwrguy Jun 2014 #67
Groups that lie or distort will not (and should not) have much influence hack89 Jun 2014 #68
Yet when one misrepresents such a basic fact to such a large degree blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #69
Do you hold the same standards with swimming pool deaths, or traffic deaths? oneshooter Jun 2014 #70
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