Gun Control & RKBA

DonP

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2. "1. Commit to a Generation-Long Battle" - Well, there's your first problem, right there

Wed Jul 23, 2014, 05:22 PM

Jul 2014

You can't even keep your hard core gun control people on DU committed to participating in your own "Activism" safe haven for more than a few days at a time. Then it's; "Ooh look, a squirrel" and they're gone for a month or two..

At the two recent Niles Illinois town hall meetings on a new gun store and range I attended, the pro 2nd people outnumbered the bought and paid for Moms Demand Action by at least 5 to 1. And I've seen many of them at other Town Halls on firearm related issues all over the Northern part of the state.

Maybe Shannon Watts should just go back to telling people that GMO foods are good for their children, the way she used to at Monsanto?

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How to Beat the NRA In 7 (Not-So-Easy) Steps [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2014 OP

And like flies on shit mikeysnot Jul 2014 #1

It's not nice to refer to SM as "Shit" DonP Jul 2014 #3

please post links to all of this name calling Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #5

Good luck with that. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #7

I know Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #8

no - i've been called names defending gun control - but i didn't samsingh Jul 2014 #28

a link to a post here in DU would be nice to see Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #33

A crude, pop-Biblical allusion? Projection? Both? Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #10

It seems it's your side of the aisle that does that much more often IronGate Jul 2014 #11

So, are you going to respond to this post with links IronGate Jul 2014 #15

^^^^^ See what I mean ^^^^^^ mikeysnot Jul 2014 #18

Often talk to yourself? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #19

Really? mikeysnot Jul 2014 #22

Well, you finally got something right in this thread. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #23

Really again mikeysnot Jul 2014 #24

Back atcha buddy. IronGate Jul 2014 #25

Projection mikeysnot Jul 2014 #26

wow, you got him Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #27

If that what helps you have confidence in yourself, IronGate Jul 2014 #32

"1. Commit to a Generation-Long Battle" - Well, there's your first problem, right there DonP Jul 2014 #2

But, I'm constantly being told blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #4

you just wait Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #9

"Culture war" krispos42 Jul 2014 #6

"Making a political issue of the tiny coffins of dead children in the wake of a school shooting..." NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #12

The constant belief that it's a hardware problem is rather astonishing krispos42 Jul 2014 #13

"does not see self-defense as a valid...reason" ^^^ Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #14

And, "Cops are Pigs" out of the same mouths as "Call 911".... NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #17

You have to believe in the Titanic or not. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #20

Here's a little mood music... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #51

other industrial countries that put controls on guns have lower gun violence samsingh Jul 2014 #30

You mean the same countries that have great social services? krispos42 Jul 2014 #35

i don't think anything will be gained by going after guns - might as well accept them for this samsingh Jul 2014 #39

I think they've worked themselves into a froth over the issue krispos42 Jul 2014 #42

it's ironic that questions from the gun control crowd whose samsingh Jul 2014 #47

If you are not hearing any solutions other than more guns then you are not listening. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #50

"I never hear anything of a solution to gun violence (accept more guns)" Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #52

The gun-control movement works through government krispos42 Jul 2014 #57

and the NRA doesn't? samsingh Jul 2014 #67

SYG does not make it mandatory to do so. krispos42 Jul 2014 #89

'NOBODY', have you never heard about the attempts at passing legislation samsingh Jul 2014 #93

I addressed that. krispos42 Jul 2014 #95

what do you mean of late? this has been tried in larger cities not small towns. samsingh Jul 2014 #96

The ones I've heard about... krispos42 Jul 2014 #110

Why the NRA wins in 1 easy number sarisataka Jul 2014 #16

Poor SM. He can't even get the other group to post on this one. n/t oneshooter Jul 2014 #21

probably blocked everyone nt Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #29

good post that makes good points samsingh Jul 2014 #31

I like this one Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #34

Step 1. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #36

just about right nt Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #37

I'm open to suggestions for improvements. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #38

step 2 - you can't make that argument samsingh Jul 2014 #40

Certainly I can make the argument. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #41

let's focus on step 3 samsingh Jul 2014 #44

Yes, according to the evidence introduced at trial. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #46

way to go in making up evidence. why am i wasting my time talking to you? done. samsingh Jul 2014 #48

Run away, since you cannot handle the truth. (nt) blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #49

run away? i'm disgusted with you samsingh Jul 2014 #59

Why? blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #62

an innocent teenage boy was slaughtered because zimmerman accousted him - that's the fact samsingh Jul 2014 #64

well thats what the jury found Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #53

Can't make an omelette w/o breaking a few eggs. (nt) blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #54

how perceptive samsingh Jul 2014 #66

i guess you think every jury decision has been accurate? load of crap samsingh Jul 2014 #60

Certainly not every one. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #63

i don't have trouble accepting facts but you seem to make them up samsingh Jul 2014 #65

What have I made up? blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #68

obviously you believe that samsingh Jul 2014 #72

What facts, besides your's, were made up? IronGate Jul 2014 #69

your acceptance of the killing of an unarmed teenager leads me to samsingh Jul 2014 #73

Any killing is tragic, IronGate Jul 2014 #75

i disagree samsingh Jul 2014 #78

LOL. IronGate Jul 2014 #80

It's clear that denial is not just a river in Egypt. (nt) blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #81

i'm impressed you know that samsingh Jul 2014 #83

stay deluded samsingh Jul 2014 #82

Deluded? blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #85

what facts were made up, please post them for us Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #97

None, of course. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #98

Making up evidence? IronGate Jul 2014 #55

very selective and dishonest reasoning - what happened prior to that ? samsingh Jul 2014 #74

If the facts were the same at the trial, IronGate Jul 2014 #76

i think martin should have been given life in prison - i read the facts samsingh Jul 2014 #77

If that's what you think, IronGate Jul 2014 #79

did both and i go back to my prevous comment about you. samsingh Jul 2014 #84

No, you didn't. IronGate Jul 2014 #86

at least i mourn the killing of a teenager instead of being an appologist of his killer samsingh Jul 2014 #99

Who said anything about not mourning? gejohnston Jul 2014 #100

sadly, hardly. samsingh Jul 2014 #101

go back and reread the response samsingh Jul 2014 #125

Apologist? How is stating facts being an apologist? NT. IronGate Jul 2014 #103

It's not. blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #112

Martin should have been given life in prison? I read the facts? IronGate Jul 2014 #130

yes i meant zimmerman - you know typing at work samsingh Jul 2014 #132

The facts, evidence and jury disagree with you. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #133

the facts don't disagree with me, neither does the evidence samsingh Jul 2014 #135

The facts, evidence and jury disagrees with you. IronGate Jul 2014 #136

the two are nothing alike gejohnston Jul 2014 #138

how so? gejohnston Jul 2014 #43

so you think that punkish moron that killed Trayvon Martin tried to retreat and was acting legally? samsingh Jul 2014 #45

I don't think. I know. gejohnston Jul 2014 #56

not only do you twist the second amendment, but now you can justify the killing of an samsingh Jul 2014 #61

That's not true either gejohnston Jul 2014 #70

Trayvon attacked without being provoked? unbelievable. stop selling me lies samsingh Jul 2014 #71

I really don't care if you find it unbelievable or not gejohnston Jul 2014 #90

you should no emotion towards innocents being slaughtered by guns samsingh Jul 2014 #92

We each mourn in our own way gejohnston Jul 2014 #109

gun control facts from all around the world are not myths and false images samsingh Jul 2014 #124

because they don't have half their population on gejohnston Jul 2014 #126

Where is your proof that half the population is on psychotropic drugs and that is the samsingh Jul 2014 #127

OK maybe not literally half the population gejohnston Jul 2014 #129

really? if gun control evidence was this spotty you'd turn it away samsingh Jul 2014 #131

Actually, gun control evidence is even more spotty gejohnston Jul 2014 #137

Your problem is not so much the NRA as it is ... spin Jul 2014 #58

Over at a liberal website politicusa an article about a judge overturning DC's gun ban kimbutgar Jul 2014 #87

Nice rant there. IronGate Jul 2014 #88

"Guns are evil, used for evil purposes" So you believe that firearms are inherently evil? oneshooter Jul 2014 #91

Gun prohibition advocacy has its share of animists friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #94

Yes guns are evil. Nothing good comes from the firing of a gun kimbutgar Jul 2014 #102

Then don't own a firearm, IronGate Jul 2014 #104

Yes I don't give a damn what you think either. bahhhhh! kimbutgar Jul 2014 #105

Good, then we're in agreement. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #106

Now you're just flailing DonP Jul 2014 #107

Yes guns are evil and I think they are icky OK!!!! kimbutgar Jul 2014 #108

Thanks for the honesty DonP Jul 2014 #113

So on a public forum I am not allowed to give my opinion kimbutgar Jul 2014 #114

Who said you're not allowed to express your opinion here? IronGate Jul 2014 #115

No I know more about guns then I want to know kimbutgar Jul 2014 #116

No, you don't and sticking your fingers in your ears IronGate Jul 2014 #117

There is no lalala when you are looking at a dead gunshot victim kimbutgar Jul 2014 #118

I've seen alot more dead people than you, IronGate Jul 2014 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Jul 2014 #121

Where do you see that? DonP Jul 2014 #119

My neighbor committed suicide and I found him kimbutgar Jul 2014 #122

If you actually think getting rid of guns will change that dynamic, I suggest you look at Japan DonP Jul 2014 #123

actually i think guns are cool but i think controls are needed samsingh Jul 2014 #128

Now that I have a moment sarisataka Jul 2014 #111

Your pandemic of propaganda won't convince persons with integrity pablo_marmol Jul 2014 #134