Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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47. Oops.

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 12:16 AM

Feb 2012

The current federal government with self governed states as we have now is an example of Federalism. (Sorry about that.)

As far as your question on Madison's statement: I believe he was referring to the type of change described in the first half of the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.

The populace was more interested in state government than in the federal government.

I still want to know what would characterize "such manifest and irresistible proofs"?

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What is gun control? [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 OP

"I'm hoping for some reasoning here"? Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #1

Political smoke. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #2

Just playing devil's advocate, here... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #3

Gun control is not a substitute for criminal control. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #64

Albert Einstein said... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #65

Good quotes. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #66

One of my favorite stories... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #71

Hinmaton-Yalaktit aka Chief Joseph? n/t DWC Feb 2012 #68

Yes... a great man. :) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #70

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"enough control to keep the government honest" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #6

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"it takes what it takes" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #9

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Let me be specific. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #24

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Yes n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #28

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My take on what should change: discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #34

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My point of view: discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #37

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Let phrase this as POORLY as I can. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #39

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Quite true. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #41

"unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance" -- CHANGE... SteveW Feb 2012 #56

The others: discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #48

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Proper sight alignment and smooth trigger squeeze DWC Feb 2012 #5

DWC discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #7

A sentencing enhancement S_B_Jackson Feb 2012 #15

Personally... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #16

How would you pay for this drastic expansion of the prison system? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #18

That would mean releasing many of those currently locked up... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #19

By raising taxes and fees on criminals of course. oneshooter Feb 2012 #20

Personally... DWC Feb 2012 #22

Which sentences would you favor shortening? discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #23

I would shorten all prison sentences DWC Feb 2012 #53

Questions... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #55

Answers DWC Feb 2012 #58

I'll be thinking on this, thanks. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #59

IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #62

Rather than the death penalty, DWC Feb 2012 #67

Sorry, I find both options repugnant. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #69

So do I but DWC Feb 2012 #72

Because a law abiding, responsible citizen DWC Feb 2012 #21

1) First and foremost, ridiculous......since there's nothing *to* control. Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #10

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The cultural management of potentially dangerous technology. rrneck Feb 2012 #13

smartass flamebait. provis99 Feb 2012 #14

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I was trying... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #29

Responsible public policy... ellisonz Feb 2012 #17

Still confused about what 'well regulated' means, aren't you? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #27

Still repeating... ellisonz Feb 2012 #30

Are you denying that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #31

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TY discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #35

"Federalist Society" - not Federalist ellisonz Feb 2012 #42

Specifically... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #43

What is your concept of Federalism? ellisonz Feb 2012 #44

I'm listening. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #45

Since you didn't answer my question of what you think Federalism is... ellisonz Feb 2012 #46

Oops. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #47

I think such things are in the eye of the beholder. ellisonz Feb 2012 #51

Matters of the heart, indeed. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #52

"I don't buy this cult of social scientific proof we seem to have......" Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #54

Do you understand the difference... ellisonz Feb 2012 #60

Yes. NT Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #63

Are you saying gejohnston Feb 2012 #50

My proposals: SteveW Feb 2012 #57

I can respect all of those. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #61