Gun Control & RKBA

Union Scribe

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73. I agree

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:58 AM

Feb 2012

Definitely with the last sentence, anyway. Carriers do need to understand they should keep the damn thing in its holster unless it's needed. Most of these 'accidents' happen when that common sense notion is violated.

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Pastor's daughter, 20, accidently shot in head at St. Pete church [View all] jpak Feb 2012 OP

How stupid atreides1 Feb 2012 #1

He was too busy explaining the "safety" features to check the chamber. pnwmom Feb 2012 #3

He had a cc permit. Must be responsible or so I hear. nt flamin lib Feb 2012 #4

Responsible does not mean infallible rl6214 Feb 2012 #69

BLAH BLAH BLAH Callisto32 Feb 2012 #114

I am SO glad folks have the right to carry guns in church. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #2

And not one single word of sympathy for the victim from you in all of that. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #6

Well said. Frustratedlady Feb 2012 #7

just too bad gunners don't consider other "people" in their insatiable need for their guns DrDan Feb 2012 #74

I'd LOVE for you to explain those quotes around "people" Callisto32 Feb 2012 #115

be glad to - the post I responded to used that word - so I put it in quotes DrDan Feb 2012 #120

Awesome. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #121

Apart from your heartfelt sympathy for the victim, you're OK with guns in church? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #11

I would say... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #16

"Why would carrying in church especially be a problem?" Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #20

You're not hearing me. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #36

I don't think it is reasonable to carry in any of those places. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #40

First... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #45

self mockery since 325 gejohnston Feb 2012 #48

Are you referring to the Armenians? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #60

"Are the majority of churches against all forms of violence?" Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #58

I'm a bit puzzled. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #59

No, it pays people to keep them out. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #65

re: "No, it pays people to keep them out." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #66

How will they do that, if not armed themselves? Callisto32 Feb 2012 #117

You are showing either an inability, or a failure... Callisto32 Feb 2012 #116

I am suffering from an inability to understand what you are trying to say. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #128

what just happened?! barbtries Feb 2012 #34

You're not hearing me. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #37

i believe that it's reasonable to leave the guns locked up barbtries Feb 2012 #79

I understand. :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #80

we understand each other then barbtries Feb 2012 #81

You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #82

it is less of a gun issue gejohnston Feb 2012 #39

Sorry to hear about this, for the girls sake. Many of the gun rights people will brewens Feb 2012 #13

The victim did not ask. It was a 20 year-old boy that asked. Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #8

You may be "alerted" for your slang reference to penis. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #84

Has anyone ever told you ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #94

Never ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #95

Why would anyone need to carry a loaded gun to church? Oh, I forgot. It is their 'right'. appleannie1 Feb 2012 #5

Um, Dr Tiller. The church members when the freak wanted to kill all the liberals. WingDinger Feb 2012 #14

Unfortunately, members of the "gun culture" don't realize they don't have to carry, even if they Hoyt Feb 2012 #18

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #27

Actually the christian right is all about guns -- they love them and are the base of "gun culture." Hoyt Feb 2012 #30

The "gun culture" isn't responsible here, only one Moises Zembrana. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #42

Like said, gun culture will take no responsibility. Kind of like oil companies. Hoyt Feb 2012 #46

I was not even in the same county gejohnston Feb 2012 #52

Looks Like this Church Gun Owner fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #129

The NRA has the classes gejohnston Feb 2012 #130

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #131

maybe Florida's training gejohnston Feb 2012 #132

The Democratic portion of the "gun culture" grew by 1/3 over the last 2 years. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #86

Just goes to show you can have a "gun-grabber" as President and still attract Democrats who care Hoyt Feb 2012 #87

Way to miss the point. But what else is new? NT Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #88

And what is the point? First, I like to see a citation. Second, a 33% increase from a low number Hoyt Feb 2012 #89

Absolutely! Why would ANYONE dare to exercise a constitutional right???? Skwid Feb 2012 #31

Lots of things are a constitutional rght -- yet they are wrong. Hoyt Feb 2012 #47

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Corporate greed, pollution, walking around with swastika, more. Hoyt Feb 2012 #56

Oy vey. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #118

That sounds exactly like what Rick the Santorum or one of his fellow travelers would say. Skwid Feb 2012 #54

Give me a break -- if it weren't for racist right wingers, gun laws would be tougher. Hoyt Feb 2012 #57

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That's God, Guns, and Guts...no one got shot at my church today. ileus Feb 2012 #9

That's because the Lord was watching over your church Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #12

Could you please get us a list of which churches the Lord watches over? It will save a lot of troub Skwid Feb 2012 #21

You'll have to ask someone with better connections then me. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #24

So any goofball with a gun can subvert the omnipotency of the Lord of the Universe? Okay, Skwid Feb 2012 #25

Which one? I prefer Artemis. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #85

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #119

What's insulting about it? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #127

Just wait....maybe next week or the week after...and movonne Feb 2012 #15

And the "gun culture" will chalk it up to illegal carrying or an accident, like that changes things. Hoyt Feb 2012 #19

I agree that churches are full of unstable people. They believe in imaginary deities. Skwid Feb 2012 #22

You kinda hit the nail on the head... movonne Feb 2012 #26

I've always had pretty good aim. Skwid Feb 2012 #28

This poster is no longer with us. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #98

Do you really feel posts like these... Clames Feb 2012 #101

Yes. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #102

Or, as Bill Maher says: "They believe in talking snakes." Is that who we want carrying guns? Hoyt Feb 2012 #32

The only people I "want" carrying guns are those who aren't felons or crazy and who can pass Skwid Feb 2012 #38

You know, DU has a religion forum Union Scribe Feb 2012 #72

Bill Maher gejohnston Feb 2012 #100

As serious as those who have to strap a gun on to venture outside. Hoyt Feb 2012 #103

Funny you should mention bars.. pipoman Feb 2012 #75

Probably because they know what folks are like who tote. Hoyt Feb 2012 #49

sad. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #10

Any word on Hannah Kelley? Another carrier WITH A PERMIT messes up, may cost someone their life. Hoyt Feb 2012 #17

So you're saying religious people shouldn't be allowed to own firearms? ileus Feb 2012 #35

Not just religious people. Although I'm more concerned about carrying. Hoyt Feb 2012 #50

No news on her condition, but the carrier had MORE than a permit JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2012 #76

Awfully quiet around here today. I wonder why. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #23

More likely in the library, reading the DSM-IV Skwid Feb 2012 #29

Tragic and unnecessary. Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools. slackmaster Feb 2012 #33

Florida has very lax gun laws HockeyMom Feb 2012 #41

are you ticked because gejohnston Feb 2012 #44

To answer. HockeyMom Feb 2012 #62

to answer number six gejohnston Feb 2012 #70

Ah, thanks for some humor in the Gungeon. Hoyt Feb 2012 #77

Seriously? PavePusher Feb 2012 #91

Great post. Hoyt Feb 2012 #53

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #55

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #71

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #111

Another tragedy... ellisonz Feb 2012 #61

Church is the *perfect* place to show off your gun Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #63

So you generally go into a small neighboring room to show off your gun? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #64

One would generally not do it in a room full of people. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #83

I agree Union Scribe Feb 2012 #73

Unfortunately, it happens too often to chalk it up as just an "accident." Mistake was toting a gun. Hoyt Feb 2012 #78

"God, Guts and Guns " rl6214 Feb 2012 #68

And the Hits Keep on Coming fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #90

Right. Freedom never has any risk associated with it. PavePusher Feb 2012 #93

Freedom???? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #96

Carrying isn't the issue. Straw Man Feb 2012 #92

Umm... ellisonz Feb 2012 #97

Well ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #99

Maybe fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #105

How about ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #106

No fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #110

Sarcasm? Straw Man Feb 2012 #113

OK fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #123

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #126

Fact Is... fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #104

Fact? Straw Man Feb 2012 #107

"I have already done more about proper gun handling than you will ever do in your lifetime." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #108

Really? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #109

Fair enough. Straw Man Feb 2012 #112

No Need To fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #122

You asked, I answered. Straw Man Feb 2012 #124

You Want to Make.... fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #125