It makes me sad when I see our elected officials... (Reply #52)

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Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:23 PM

52. It makes me sad when I see our elected officials...

...making fools of themselves saying things like magazines get "used up" and "shoulder thing..." not to mention folks like a certain Congressman who tied up a hearing trying to be sure that an influx of extra military personnel wouldn't cause Guam to "capsize".

I don't expect every one of them to take an 8 hour firearm class and spend a couple hours at a range.

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93 replies	Author	Time	Post
If a CCW applicant has to take classes and pass tests... [View all]	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	OP
I vote yes, and add that LEOs should have to pass constitutional literacy tests.	NYC_SKP	Aug 2014	#1
The desk	SwankyXomb	Aug 2014	#2
Moreover, they are permitted by law to be liars to citizens.	NYC_SKP	Aug 2014	#3
What do you mean by "understand?"	ZombieHorde	Aug 2014	#4
Well, based on further comments about	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Aug 2014	#26
I definately support studies	ZombieHorde	Aug 2014	#29
no you continue to allow	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#30
Terminology and basic functionality	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#35
Thanks for the answer. nt	ZombieHorde	Aug 2014	#66
You're welcome	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#67
Understand what exactly? How each gun works?	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#5
the former	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#7
And do you think the legislators all know how to fly planes and how they work?	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#8
the relaxing of gun laws and other fear driven legislation.	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#9
The legislators don't know jack	clffrdjk	Aug 2014	#10
Can't disagree with that.	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#12
struggle between individual rights and public safety	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#14
So, in your view, the general public has no rights?	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#16
The general public has rights, but only up to a point	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#19
Then that would be a majority and not the public as a whole.	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#36
I don't think you understand the concept that well.	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#24
How many of those "proper government functions" are working for you GE?	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#45
some clarifications	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#49
Post script	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#51
Red Dawn? Nope Sorry.	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#84
did you look up the 1984 version	gejohnston	Aug 2014	#86
The interesting thing with the gun debate	clffrdjk	Aug 2014	#17
Maybe it's like the Manhattan Project and the decision to bomb Hiroshima	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#20
Yes.	Straw Man	Aug 2014	#11
I agree	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#13
You ban it, you define it. nt	Eleanors38	Aug 2014	#34
Terminology and basic functionality	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#40
OK. I'm good with that. nt	Starboard Tack	Aug 2014	#46
You're a reasonable dude...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#53
I do not expect my legislator to be an expert	sarisataka	Aug 2014	#6
The "experts" all come from the gun lobby. nt	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#15
Antigun types tend to not know what they're talking about and/or embrace ignorance	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#18
I am not anti gun.	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#21
Trouble is, the NRA does actually provide competent instruction...	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#22
See? There ya go being confrontational. Lacing your reply with commentary insulting to	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#25
At least two of those	Duckhunter935	Aug 2014	#28
So? list all the "grass roots" groups in the gun lobby.	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#37
No, wrong, incorrect.	IronGate	Aug 2014	#42
Dream on.	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#44
Can you be kind enough	Duckhunter935	Aug 2014	#50
Read it in two articles in financial magazines. Business Insider and	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#68
The grassroots stuff tends to be state-level.	Glaug-Eldare	Aug 2014	#56
GOAL MA is indeed grass roots org. They spent less than $10k	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#70
Your post #25 has three problems: 1)I insulted no one- the groups mentioned are...	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#62
No, they don't say no one should have guns. You are parroting the NRA which you	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#69
As long as those owners are pre-approved by TPTB, and use only 19th C. technology	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#71
Some stuff just ain't worth the time. nt	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#72
Ah yes, the George Aiken approach: Declare victory and leave	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#73
I didn't declare victory, just stated the obvious. ttfn nt	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#74
Never get involved in a land war in Asia, and never...	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#76
and never let your alligator mouth overload your paper bag ass.	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#77
The jibes of the politically ineffectual are more amusing than stinging	friendly_iconoclast	Aug 2014	#78
Be careful what you wish for, I just gave it to you.	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#80
Sigh, okay guess I have to tick em off one at a time.	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#79
Loudly got PPR'd?	IronGate	Aug 2014	#31
To be completely accurate you mean PPR'd ... again	DonP	Aug 2014	#32
By way of information:	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#39
Huh, same as the last time	DonP	Aug 2014	#63
As Led Zeppelin said:	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#64
There will be some conflict of interest	sarisataka	Aug 2014	#23
Yes, let's find them, and create a graded license system for gun ownership.	JoePhilly	Aug 2014	#27
You kind of missed the point	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#41
That's ok, I FIXED the point.	JoePhilly	Aug 2014	#47
I wasn't discounting your suggestions	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#54
Will you also be willing to apply this system to other dangerous rights, or equipment?	oneshooter	Aug 2014	#89
The system I described IS the system for driver's licenses.	JoePhilly	Aug 2014	#90
Some finer points	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#91
I'll be frank ...	JoePhilly	Aug 2014	#92
I'm always Frank...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#93
No. You can't require legislators to know everything about every subject,	Glaug-Eldare	Aug 2014	#33
"people affect by it..." A measure of political viability.	Eleanors38	Aug 2014	#38
What you describe is the original lobbyist, someone who hung out in the lobby of the hotel where leg	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#43
To some extent, but as much as anything I mean testimony.	Glaug-Eldare	Aug 2014	#48
I'm aware of this. OWS does this on banking/financial legislation.	flamin lib	Aug 2014	#75
It makes me sad when I see our elected officials...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#52
In the words of a certain bourgeois outer space military officer,	Glaug-Eldare	Aug 2014	#55
Well, General Steiner, another outer space officer said	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#57
A great chief among my people once said,	Glaug-Eldare	Aug 2014	#58
As told to Cloud William:	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#60
Oh, here's a good'n when somebody's arguing nonsense:	Glaug-Eldare	Aug 2014	#65
Isn't knowing "guns kill people" enough?	ileus	Aug 2014	#59
Sure it is	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#61
Do you want this on the streets???!!!!!	DesMoinesDem	Aug 2014	#81
Yikes! I'm calling Danny Glover.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#82
Is not being a dumbass too much to ask?	ileus	Aug 2014	#83
One of my pet peeves is terminology	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#85
A piston powered Sig is always a good bet.	ileus	Aug 2014	#87
Thanks	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2014	#88

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