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52. It makes me sad when I see our elected officials...
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:23 PM
Aug 2014

...making fools of themselves saying things like magazines get "used up" and "shoulder thing..." not to mention folks like a certain Congressman who tied up a hearing trying to be sure that an influx of extra military personnel wouldn't cause Guam to "capsize".

I don't expect every one of them to take an 8 hour firearm class and spend a couple hours at a range.

Information is power.

I vote yes, and add that LEOs should have to pass constitutional literacy tests. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #1
The desk SwankyXomb Aug 2014 #2
Moreover, they are permitted by law to be liars to citizens. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #3
What do you mean by "understand?" ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #4
Well, based on further comments about Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #26
I definately support studies ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #29
no you continue to allow gejohnston Aug 2014 #30
Terminology and basic functionality discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #35
Thanks for the answer. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #66
You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #67
Understand what exactly? How each gun works? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #5
the former gejohnston Aug 2014 #7
And do you think the legislators all know how to fly planes and how they work? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #8
the relaxing of gun laws and other fear driven legislation. gejohnston Aug 2014 #9
The legislators don't know jack clffrdjk Aug 2014 #10
Can't disagree with that. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #12
struggle between individual rights and public safety gejohnston Aug 2014 #14
So, in your view, the general public has no rights? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #16
The general public has rights, but only up to a point friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #19
Then that would be a majority and not the public as a whole. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #36
I don't think you understand the concept that well. gejohnston Aug 2014 #24
How many of those "proper government functions" are working for you GE? Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #45
some clarifications gejohnston Aug 2014 #49
Post script gejohnston Aug 2014 #51
Red Dawn? Nope Sorry. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #84
did you look up the 1984 version gejohnston Aug 2014 #86
The interesting thing with the gun debate clffrdjk Aug 2014 #17
Maybe it's like the Manhattan Project and the decision to bomb Hiroshima Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #20
Yes. Straw Man Aug 2014 #11
I agree Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #13
You ban it, you define it. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #34
Terminology and basic functionality discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #40
OK. I'm good with that. nt Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #46
You're a reasonable dude... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #53
I do not expect my legislator to be an expert sarisataka Aug 2014 #6
The "experts" all come from the gun lobby. nt flamin lib Aug 2014 #15
Antigun types tend to not know what they're talking about and/or embrace ignorance friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #18
I am not anti gun. flamin lib Aug 2014 #21
Trouble is, the NRA does actually provide competent instruction... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #22
See? There ya go being confrontational. Lacing your reply with commentary insulting to flamin lib Aug 2014 #25
At least two of those Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #28
So? list all the "grass roots" groups in the gun lobby. flamin lib Aug 2014 #37
No, wrong, incorrect. IronGate Aug 2014 #42
Dream on. flamin lib Aug 2014 #44
Can you be kind enough Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #50
Read it in two articles in financial magazines. Business Insider and flamin lib Aug 2014 #68
The grassroots stuff tends to be state-level. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2014 #56
GOAL MA is indeed grass roots org. They spent less than $10k flamin lib Aug 2014 #70
Your post #25 has three problems: 1)I insulted no one- the groups mentioned are... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #62
No, they don't say no one should have guns. You are parroting the NRA which you flamin lib Aug 2014 #69
As long as those owners are pre-approved by TPTB, and use only 19th C. technology friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #71
Some stuff just ain't worth the time. nt flamin lib Aug 2014 #72
Ah yes, the George Aiken approach: Declare victory and leave friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #73
I didn't declare victory, just stated the obvious. ttfn nt flamin lib Aug 2014 #74
Never get involved in a land war in Asia, and never... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #76
and never let your alligator mouth overload your paper bag ass. flamin lib Aug 2014 #77
The jibes of the politically ineffectual are more amusing than stinging friendly_iconoclast Aug 2014 #78
Be careful what you wish for, I just gave it to you. flamin lib Aug 2014 #80
Sigh, okay guess I have to tick em off one at a time. flamin lib Aug 2014 #79
Loudly got PPR'd? IronGate Aug 2014 #31
To be completely accurate you mean PPR'd ... again DonP Aug 2014 #32
By way of information: discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #39
Huh, same as the last time DonP Aug 2014 #63
As Led Zeppelin said: discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #64
There will be some conflict of interest sarisataka Aug 2014 #23
Yes, let's find them, and create a graded license system for gun ownership. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #27
You kind of missed the point discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #41
That's ok, I FIXED the point. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #47
I wasn't discounting your suggestions discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #54
Will you also be willing to apply this system to other dangerous rights, or equipment? oneshooter Aug 2014 #89
The system I described IS the system for driver's licenses. JoePhilly Aug 2014 #90
Some finer points discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #91
I'll be frank ... JoePhilly Aug 2014 #92
I'm always Frank... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #93
No. You can't require legislators to know everything about every subject, Glaug-Eldare Aug 2014 #33
"people affect by it..." A measure of political viability. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #38
What you describe is the original lobbyist, someone who hung out in the lobby of the hotel where leg flamin lib Aug 2014 #43
To some extent, but as much as anything I mean testimony. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2014 #48
I'm aware of this. OWS does this on banking/financial legislation. flamin lib Aug 2014 #75
It makes me sad when I see our elected officials... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #52
In the words of a certain bourgeois outer space military officer, Glaug-Eldare Aug 2014 #55
Well, General Steiner, another outer space officer said discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #57
A great chief among my people once said, Glaug-Eldare Aug 2014 #58
As told to Cloud William: discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #60
Oh, here's a good'n when somebody's arguing nonsense: Glaug-Eldare Aug 2014 #65
Isn't knowing "guns kill people" enough? ileus Aug 2014 #59
Sure it is discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #61
Do you want this on the streets???!!!!! DesMoinesDem Aug 2014 #81
Yikes! I'm calling Danny Glover. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #82
Is not being a dumbass too much to ask? ileus Aug 2014 #83
One of my pet peeves is terminology discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #85
A piston powered Sig is always a good bet. ileus Aug 2014 #87
Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #88
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