Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)acalix: Your statistics agree with me...The decline in firearm homicides started from 1994 which saw little difference in percent of firearm homicides from 1993.
From 1993-2000 murders done by gun fell from 71.2% to ~64.1% as gun ownership rates fell about 25%.
A ten percent decline in murders done by gun (93/4 - 99/00) is a statistically significant decline, and this decline corresponded with the decline in household & personal gun ownership rates during same period. You are trying to sluff this off as being 'little difference' in gun homicides when in fact it refutes your & icon's previous contentions, well enough.
Percent of violence {homicide} involving a firearm, 19932011
1993 .. 71.2 %
1994 ...71.4
1995 ...69.0
1996 ...68.0
1997 ...68.0
1998 ...65.9
1999 ...64.1
2000 ...64.4
2001 ...55.9 ... scratch, 9/11 included ~3,000
2002 ...67.1 2003 ...67.2 2004 ...67.0
2005 ...68.2 2006 ...68.9 2007 ...68.8 2008 ...68.3 2009 ...68.4
2010 ...68.1 2011c ..69.6 http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf
Decline in non fatal firearm violent crime rates from 93/4 to 99/00 also declined approx. 21% on avg (by year), corresponding to the ~25% overall decline in household & personal gun ownership rates.
acalix: .. despite both years {1993 & 2011} having roughly the same proportion of firearms used to commit homicide, why is the homicide rate in 2011 lower? It couldn't be the lower gun ownership in households because the proportion of guns used to commit murder in both years is almost identical.
You need take the avg percentage decline in FA murder during the 19 years 1993 - 2011, which appears about 7% or 8% on avg, more pronounced 93-00; This corresponds with declining gun ownership rates.
acalix: That means declining household gun ownership could not be the cause of lower homicide rates. Rather another factor caused the decline in gun homicides, overall homicides, gun related violent crime and non-gun related violent crime.
Certainly other factors contribute, but the correlation remains, violent crime rates & murder rates declined as did gun ownership rates, more pronounced from 1993 - 2000.