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Straw Man

(6,951 posts)
19. Stupid loopholes?
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:55 AM
Sep 2014
Thats becuasr of stupid loopholes allowing ones in circulation to remain so.

Those "stupid loopholes" are arguably an eminent domain issue, since such a ban with no grandfathering would represent a "taking" of private property -- legally acquired, by the way -- for a public purpose: "public safety," in this instance. According to the Fifth Amendment, this would require "just compensation" for the property taken.

How much would this cost? A conservative estimate suggests that there are half to three-quarters of a million AR-style rifles alone.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/20/assault_rifle_stats_how_many_assault_rifles_are_there_in_america.html

This figure is only from companies that make this style of rifle exclusively. Add in AR-style rifles that are part of a more diverse line by makers such as Ruger, S&W, etc., as well as AK-pattern rifles, then HK and SIG models, etc., and we're talking about several millions. Shall we just say 3 million for arguments sake? Market prices would be in the $500 to $2000 range. Let's say $1000 to keep things simple.

Three billion dollars to buy back weapons that account for fewer fatalities per year than hands, fists, and feet?

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/20tabledatadecpdf/table_20_murder_by_state_types_of_weapons_2012.xls

Does that make sense to you?

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As soon as we have a sugar daddy like you have upaloopa Sep 2014 #1
Feinstein study: AWB increased sales of "military style" rifles. From Sen. Feinstein's page: NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #2
Thats becuasr of stupid loopholes allowing ones in circulation to remain so.e ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #3
Except that it's very problematic unless you make a blanket ban krispos42 Sep 2014 #4
got awful quiet Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #9
Lol sorry Im just not a tireless rebutter. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #12
you mean like my 1926 Mosin bolt action rifle? Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #13
I don't know why you have a need to know why people IronGate Sep 2014 #14
"There are reams of evidence that gun control works" Yes, but not the kind *you* want friendly_iconoclast Sep 2014 #17
Gun control is a myth discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #27
I do not own "military grade assault weapons"I have M1 Garands. n/t oneshooter Sep 2014 #29
Wasn t the M1 the standard issue weapon of the US military in WW2? ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #31
I'd say... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #32
The Springfield rifled musket was the standard issue weapon of the US military in the Civil War. Straw Man Sep 2014 #33
better get these off the market discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #34
Post#32 answers your question. oneshooter Sep 2014 #36
And you can shoot at 600+ yards with one. jeepnstein Sep 2014 #38
but it is NOT an "assault weapon/rifle. n/t oneshooter Sep 2014 #39
Welcome back. nt. IronGate Sep 2014 #30
"Military grade assault weapons" (e.g. select-fire) have been banned since 1986 benEzra Sep 2014 #37
It was impossible to totally outlaw semiautomatic firearms. Also I know a good number of ... spin Sep 2014 #15
Stupid loopholes? Straw Man Sep 2014 #19
They had no problem outlawing drugs but I don t aee amyone getting compensated. ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #21
Drugs being a consumable, ... Straw Man Sep 2014 #22
"They had no problem outlawing drugs..." beevul Sep 2014 #25
Well, if you're building prisons, yes. blueridge3210 Sep 2014 #26
And, those numbers don't include sales of stripped and 80% receivers VScott Sep 2014 #23
That link says just under 4 million AR's, if I read it right... benEzra Sep 2014 #28
You have a backer worth 33 billion dollars (Bloomberg). Why isn't that enough? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2014 #5
You have Bloomberg, the Joyce Foundation, Bill Gates and you think you don't have the rich Lurks Often Sep 2014 #6
Wishful thinking. IronGate Sep 2014 #8
Bloombergs worth billions Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #10
Actually, a more salient reason the "ban" won't be pursued: Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #11
Bloomberg's fortune dwarfs the NRA's assets. Straw Man Sep 2014 #16
We are dealing with another example of "false consensus effect" friendly_iconoclast Sep 2014 #18
LMAO -- "sugar daddy" pablo_marmol Sep 2014 #20
So your complaint is that other groups are too popular and too well funded Taitertots Sep 2014 #40
That's why every payday I invest in more pmags. ileus Sep 2014 #7
"she realized that pushing for a ban isn’t the best way to prevent gun deaths." beevul Sep 2014 #24
Adding a link to the Cindy Horn story linked in your other reply. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #35
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