Gun Control & RKBA

kioa

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55. I stated reality & used facts.

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:01 PM

Nov 2014

You have discussed nothing but your feelings.

Myself & my fellow citizens will keep our rights & continue to make our own choices despite your authoritarian & bizarre desires to take those away from others.

Rights and choice are precious to We the People.
We will keep them.

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Responsible Gun Owner's 3-Year-Old Fatally Shoots Her In The Head [View all] eridani Nov 2014 OP

Awful shenmue Nov 2014 #1

Darwin At Work SoCalMusicLover Nov 2014 #3

Shame shenmue Nov 2014 #4

i think it's more than darwin samsingh Nov 2014 #5

Love me, love my gun, love my country...or else.., but true patriotism has nothing to do with guns. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #22

God, SoCal, you'll turn off your "peaceful" allies. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #19

Your pathetic attempt at a joke would have more validity if she was not killed CBGLuthier Nov 2014 #66

She was killed by a 3 year old with a loaded gun she negligently left on a table...a gun, not a fork Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #70

LOL! So that's justification for a filthy remark? pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #131

What? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #133

Don't feign confusion please. pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #134

It still isn't fucking humorous in the least and the snipe was in poor taste GGJohn Nov 2014 #164

Actually that is not true. Chemisse Nov 2014 #77

What an absolutely sickening remark. pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #91

There's a lot of death celebration over this issue lately... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #118

But the poster will get a pass because his/her remark pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #130

much as i enjoy a good darwin award, they're more appropriate when they happen before breeding. unblock Nov 2014 #202

Again proving the deadly nature of a gun, a child can kill an adult with this inanimate object. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #2

More people are killed in bicycle accidents than from firearm accidents. kioa Nov 2014 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Sweet Freedom Nov 2014 #7

More gun lovers are killed by their own guns than by criminals. Stupid gun lovers..... Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #8

Then don't own one. kioa Nov 2014 #12

Lots of non-gun owners are killed by gun owners, though. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #82

Lots of gun owners are killed by non-gun owners. kioa Nov 2014 #84

Don't worry, even if "life in the USA isn't scary"...... daleanime Nov 2014 #105

How so? kioa Nov 2014 #110

"Who will be a 'responsible gun owner' right up until the moment they aren't." pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #92

And a lot of drunkards kill others. acalix Nov 2014 #186

Good question. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #187

False comparison. acalix Nov 2014 #191

True comparison. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #192

False comparison. Straw Man Nov 2014 #193

How many times as something like that happened? acalix Nov 2014 #201

More to the point... beevul Nov 2014 #200

I have no problem with a license that is good in every state - just like a drivers license. nt hack89 Dec 2014 #206

You're free not to own one, you're not free to deny others of owning one. GGJohn Nov 2014 #27

you are right samsingh Nov 2014 #40

I know, the gun loving folk do not get it that a gun is a......gun...go figure. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #42

the absolute lack of facts and logic is astounding samsingh Nov 2014 #47

Hmmmm, didn't you at one time have only like 50 posts? GGJohn Nov 2014 #165

maybe 10 years ago samsingh Nov 2014 #169

"a lot of right wingers join the board.........." pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #188

want to see emotion and ignorance - talk to a gun lover about gun control samsingh Nov 2014 #189

Quite the contrary. pablo_marmol Nov 2014 #194

what facts do you refer to? studies around the world show that increased gun ownership samsingh Nov 2014 #196

"what facts do you refer to?" pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #204

your google search is very lazy and your hypocracy at bias is glaring samsingh Dec 2014 #208

Lazy searches. Straw Man Dec 2014 #213

interesting point samsingh Dec 2014 #214

Actually, the shootings were a string in the 1980s gejohnston Jan 2015 #227

"Your google search is very lazy......." pablo_marmol Jan 2015 #226

Happy New Year samsingh Jan 2015 #228

Back at you. pablo_marmol Jan 2015 #229

you won't quit samsingh Jan 2015 #230

Right. My post #226 focused only on your spelling. LOL. pablo_marmol Jan 2015 #231

no i meant you won't quit saying lies samsingh Jan 2015 #232

Here is YOUR LIE: pablo_marmol Feb 2015 #234

it only proves something in your biased mind samsingh Feb 2015 #238

Wow -- you're really beyond all help. pablo_marmol Feb 2015 #240

and of course anything you don't understand must be a lie samsingh Jan 2015 #233

The maturity level is appalling sarisataka Nov 2014 #195

nothing compared to when gun lovers tell gun control advocates samsingh Nov 2014 #197

You stated that gun owners are sarisataka Nov 2014 #199

scour the internet and this board to see what gun lovers call gun supporters samsingh Dec 2014 #207

No need sarisataka Dec 2014 #211

the 'control' side doesn't shoot guns at least. Are you more concerned with words or actual bullets samsingh Dec 2014 #212

You might want to fact check sarisataka Dec 2014 #215

btw - have you seen the names i've been called in this thread? samsingh Dec 2014 #219

Yet you have repeatedly sarisataka Dec 2014 #220

okay thanks for the explanation samsingh Dec 2014 #221

You're not guilty of lying? Really?! Here's what you said about me: pablo_marmol Feb 2015 #235

it's the truth. how is that lying? samsingh Feb 2015 #237

It's not the truth. It's a complete lie. pablo_marmol Feb 2015 #241

Actually, evidence demonstrates that you are the one blatantly lying. pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #205

to you 175 respondents scrares you that all your guns will be taken away samsingh Dec 2014 #209

No - I am not afraid of having my guns taken away, Mr. Integrity. pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #216

that's like saying no one with guns kills - your side samsingh Dec 2014 #218

Only the reading comprehension impaired could come to that conclusion. NT pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #224

This message was self-deleted by its author samsingh Dec 2014 #225

Rachel Maddow believes in an unarmed society. pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #217

Good for her. She's a smart person. samsingh Feb 2015 #236

So you think banning guns is a good idea, or even feasible? LOL! pablo_marmol Feb 2015 #242

your posts have convinced me that i'm being too moderate in my thinking samsingh Feb 2015 #239

Right -- because quoting award-winning liberal criminologists is such a horrible thing. pablo_marmol Feb 2015 #243

that's an honor - hopefully you won't be responding if you've samsingh Feb 2015 #244

Most civilized societies have sensible laws when it comes to guns and healthcare, in these two areas NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #177

Define "civilized society". kioa Nov 2014 #184

you are right samsingh Nov 2014 #198

very immature indeed samsingh Dec 2014 #210

The things you mention actually have uses other than to kill. angstlessk Nov 2014 #9

Irrelevant. kioa Nov 2014 #10

we can all make stuff samsingh Nov 2014 #44

I stated reality & used facts. kioa Nov 2014 #55

where are your references to your 'facts' samsingh Nov 2014 #101

It's basic English. kioa Nov 2014 #108

does access to weed count as a liberty? samsingh Nov 2014 #136

In some states. kioa Nov 2014 #145

Why are so many civilized societies able to function just fine without guns? NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #178

Civilized societies are able to function without kioa Nov 2014 #183

Oh, ok, you're just not as dead because they are designed for other uses. GGJohn Nov 2014 #28

you are right - it requires some level of critical thinking to grasp the difference samsingh Nov 2014 #41

Not true. ileus Nov 2014 #61

Do you think there are more killed intentionally by bicycles than guns? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #31

If only there was a law against intentionally killing people, amirite? kioa Nov 2014 #43

There are laws against intentionally killing people but it does not stop this Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #74

very good question samsingh Nov 2014 #45

Good Point. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #75

Yet more accidental deaths from even bicycles than from firearms kioa Nov 2014 #89

accidental is an important word - and how many in each incident samsingh Nov 2014 #96

WW2 had more deaths than WW1. kioa Nov 2014 #113

your words are full of hate and fear samsingh Nov 2014 #135

How so? I'm not the one insisting on taking rights from innocent people, nor kioa Nov 2014 #143

no, you just don't want to do anything to stop innocent people from being killed by samsingh Nov 2014 #147

California, Chicago & DC show that gun bans has nothing to do with lowering kioa Nov 2014 #149

selective picking there. In fact, around the world stats show the opposite of your viewpoint samsingh Nov 2014 #150

You do have the attitude of the 1%. kioa Nov 2014 #154

Al Gore did win btw - you're giving yourself away - the supreme court stoogers stopped samsingh Nov 2014 #152

Al Gore would have been President if he had won his home state. kioa Nov 2014 #153

again, he won the election. it was stolen from him by the repugs samsingh Nov 2014 #170

Again. Gore would have been president if he had won his home state kioa Nov 2014 #173

i would thought anyone believing in democracy would be outraged samsingh Nov 2014 #174

You started your post accusing innocent people of causing slaughters. kioa Nov 2014 #175

i really don't think you're reading my posts - seems like you have something to say samsingh Nov 2014 #176

Al Gore would have won if Katherine Harris hadnt iillegaly struck 90,000 NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #179

Kathleen Harris & Florida would have been a non factor kioa Nov 2014 #181

oh boy NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #182

There are no accidental deaths from bicycles. Deaths of bike riders are typically caused-- eridani Nov 2014 #151

i think that's true. samsingh Nov 2014 #171

and more people die from old age. what's your point? samsingh Nov 2014 #33

My point was specifically stated in the post you responded to kioa Nov 2014 #37

your point makes no sense and would fail in logic 101 samsingh Nov 2014 #38

I disagree. kioa Nov 2014 #52

No, they're not. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #83

Regardless those objects irrefutably cause more deaths. kioa Nov 2014 #85

No, it tells me you like misleading statistics. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #87

Lethality causes death. kioa Nov 2014 #88

My SD revolver is in use nearly 1/3 of a year each year... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #119

If you're not touching it, with your finger on the trigger, it's not in 'use'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #120

That doesn't fly. A gun is in use when a cop or civilian Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #122

Having something 'ready' is not the same as 'in use'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #123

Would you agree that fear of OC sarisataka Nov 2014 #126

When SD actions are calculated, shooting a gun... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #127

i don't think guns are scrary - stop putting words in other people's mouth samsingh Nov 2014 #102

Sure you are. kioa Nov 2014 #106

the fact that i think gun lovers are many times stupid samsingh Nov 2014 #137

Most civilized societies dont have these silly arguments about bicycles and guns.. NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #180

Yet I still own 2 bikes...knowing they're dangerous. ileus Nov 2014 #65

Let's see, according to the Pedestrian and Bicycle Information Center, SheilaT Nov 2014 #79

Accidental shooting caused 606 deaths in 2010. kioa Nov 2014 #80

The non accidental ones don't count, I take it. SheilaT Nov 2014 #90

There is already a law against murder & lacking a firearm doesn't prevent suicides. kioa Nov 2014 #95

But lacking a firearm tends to drastically reduce the suicide rate and other murder rates. SheilaT Nov 2014 #125

Not having a gun doesn't drastically reduce suicide rate. kioa Nov 2014 #148

You realize sarisataka Nov 2014 #11

I realize she was criminally negligent with a deadly weapon. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #16

Stay on task sarisataka Nov 2014 #24

a kid was able to get a hold of her gun and kill her with it - you don't see anything wrong with samsingh Nov 2014 #34

See post #24 sarisataka Nov 2014 #53

No, they do not, just an irresponsible gun owner, the gun is totally innocent. Breathtaking. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #62

Who has stated sarisataka Nov 2014 #67

innocent implies sentience. the admission is that the gun is not an inanimate object samsingh Nov 2014 #97

It was not a "gun lover" sarisataka Nov 2014 #111

What? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #116

A terrible tragedy sarisataka Nov 2014 #13

Such attitudes are despicable, but they are intrinsic to their argument. kioa Nov 2014 #14

NRA talking points...freedom to own deadly weapons and to die freely by them is death, not liberty. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #15

could you please link to these talking points? Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #17

Ignorance is exactly what gun control feeds on. kioa Nov 2014 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #20

There you go: Using the "N" word again... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #21

you of course meant life saving devices, not deadly weapons. ileus Nov 2014 #25

Death by ignorance sarisataka Nov 2014 #26

You win the prize for being the first to utter the "NRA talking points" meme first. GGJohn Nov 2014 #29

"NRA talking points" is a VPC talking point. Straw Man Nov 2014 #93

Scissors are fine, not designed to kill and can not kill easily. Killing is child's play with guns, Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #117

I see that you are dodging the central issue ... Straw Man Nov 2014 #140

Killing is child's play when the child has a gun, it is not complicated. Just twitch a finger. Dead. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #156

The child's finger should never be on the gun. Straw Man Nov 2014 #157

LOL, any other "inanimate object" that a child can use to kill so easily? Name one, there is nothing Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #158

WTF are you L-ing-OL about? Straw Man Nov 2014 #159

Everything you mention does not involve the use of a deadly weapon, get it? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #160

Nevertheless, the situations described are potentially deadly. Straw Man Nov 2014 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author Straw Man Nov 2014 #94

well said samsingh Nov 2014 #190

hurt feelings on one hand - innocent people being massacred by people with guns on the other samsingh Nov 2014 #35

Some deaths are tragic sarisataka Nov 2014 #56

death is not humorous and i see the hypocrisy samsingh Nov 2014 #99

Credit for honesty nt sarisataka Nov 2014 #112

Speaking of innocent people... sarisataka Nov 2014 #57

do you not see the frustration on the gun control side samsingh Nov 2014 #100

I see lots of frustration sarisataka Nov 2014 #114

i'm sorry to hear about your cousin - very tragic samsingh Nov 2014 #132

Yes and MADD has shown us sarisataka Nov 2014 #138

MADD in this area would be good. samsingh Nov 2014 #139

So that makes those statements ok? GGJohn Nov 2014 #166

On your body or locked up....safety first. ileus Nov 2014 #23

Safety first, do not own a deadly weapon like a gun, no death by gun. Simple even for the simpletons Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #30

I don't, I own life saving devices, hunting instruments, and target firearms. ileus Nov 2014 #32

the basic point is being missed samsingh Nov 2014 #36

neither will a pool noodle. ileus Nov 2014 #46

unless you get shot at in the back samsingh Nov 2014 #48

But, ileus, you posted you only have target and hunting guns...showing your paranoia now, at Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #54

When and where did I ever say I only owned two of the four types of firearms? ileus Nov 2014 #59

Post #32, dearee, so now you are going to add to your arsenal to justify your illogic? Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #60

Life saving devices = personal protection/self defense firearms. ileus Nov 2014 #63

My mistake, life saving devices to me means things like a life preserver or fire extinguishers... Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #64

Wouldn't it be hard? Sleeping in fear? ileus Nov 2014 #68

Bully for you. Enjoy your hobby, stay safe. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #69

Thanks... ileus Nov 2014 #72

as along as the gun lover is safe it doesn't matter that kids somewhere else are being slaughtered samsingh Nov 2014 #104

Firearms are as safe as baby powder..wow...armies are using the wrong weapons! Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #39

what a great discovery - shower baby powder samsingh Nov 2014 #49

And they could blast barrels of glitter over the battlefield...choking hazard....why do they choose Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #50

here's another interesting thing i found on the internet samsingh Nov 2014 #51

That's why we have to promote a progressive stance on the 2A. ileus Nov 2014 #58

we are samsingh Nov 2014 #98

If you are so paranoid, why not get bars angstlessk Nov 2014 #76

I do have one BAR....270 nice rifle ileus Nov 2014 #81

I recall a tale of a man sarisataka Nov 2014 #86

Why don't you take your own advice instead of insisting that innocent people have to lose kioa Nov 2014 #109

You're more than free to not own one. GGJohn Nov 2014 #167

Wow! Straw Man Nov 2014 #168

To answer your question...yes...yes, you are. Obviously. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #172

It's called "sarcasm." Straw Man Nov 2014 #185

Just another overconfident gun owner Warpy Nov 2014 #71

The use of safes & lockboxes is increasing, which may explain... Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #121

Speaking of securing firearms sarisataka Nov 2014 #124

Guns are just a little different Warpy Nov 2014 #142

So target shooting is really practice for killing people? hack89 Nov 2014 #144

Hmmm sarisataka Nov 2014 #146

I believe these on-going safety campaigns are behind Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #155

I knew this story would show up here. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #73

woops I wandered onto this thread by mistake bye-bye LiberalElite Nov 2014 #78

Usually, they are in GD! Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #129

Hooray! discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #103

Those poor children! chervilant Nov 2014 #107

Interesting. The OP and the gloating was not a product of Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #128

Well, now, chervilant Nov 2014 #141

#3 and the reaction to it, even from controllers. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #161

Perhaps, then, chervilant Nov 2014 #162

probably a "safe action" pistol. ileus Nov 2014 #115

No sympathy here. avebury Nov 2014 #203

I'm Not Sure most Gun Owners know what it is to be responsible blackribbonamerica Dec 2014 #222

Registration? The brady bunch? beevul Dec 2014 #223